I will train for the rest of my life…
Of course you will. Recycling through the Student Hat and on up as GAT III, then GAT IV and on and on are “released” with “epic breakthroughs to speed your progress up the Bridge.” Wonder if you will EVER wake up?
Shortbread?
At least they have the right country. But really not much of a reason to give money for a building…
And clouds too…
Yikes – L. Ron Hubbard Gallery is closed?
Yelpers pranking? Renovations? All-hands CF filing?
Moneywinds
Learn about the Vampire Personality from a true Vampire Personality. And money, money, money.
There is no live link to this video here — but believe me, it is horrendous. Worst teleprompter reader ever. She needs a remedial reading class before she redoes the Student Hat. A 7 year old could read more smoothly than she does.
CCHR is on the case
Somehow Ken Kramer and CCHR want to take credit for even the most remote things. He was trained as a psychiatrist, but his profession was politician.
Ribbon Yanking
In case you missed it on Tony Ortega’s blog yesterday. “Special Guest Speakers”? He Who Shall Not Be Named… And some dignitaries they have conned to stand on the stage that they don’t want to tell anyone about in case someone contacts them beforehand and tells them about the exploits of Dear Leader.
It’s like nothing of this universe…
Running on a circular track is really unique. Dim the lights, stick a “pole” of light in the middle and it’s like a “Disco LA Fitness Club” — and they call this “auditing”? I guess if sitting in a sauna is “auditing” so is running in circles….
Sanity?
Epitomized by a newly built empty office for a man who died 30 years ago and didn’t come back….
Magic and OT
Strange bedfellows? Or perhaps not. After all, magic is making you believe something happened that actually didn’t.
What happens when you delete one dynamic?
You end up a scientologist. The better question would be “What happens when you delete all dynamics except the 3rd.”
What does it take?
Dress up and act like a fool with a handful of other equally misguided old people.
Yeah, we are #10!
Book Burning
Turn in your “old” Dianetics book and we will give you a free DVD AND 50% off. They must want them really bad. Or have NO sales of the “new edition.” Or both.
What could be more fun than that?
You’re correct… ANYTHING
Check out his resume
An OT VIII, Student Hat blah blah blah. Wonder how many medals he wears on his lapel?
Redoing the convention?
Now that is certainty
We are going to ask you if you would like to attend at a different date…
With these speakers, why would anyone want to attend?
The Moneywinds is in BIG trouble getting anyone to show up for anything.
Rocket Man
And I think it’s gonna be a long, long time
‘Til touchdown brings me ’round again to find
I’m not the man they think I am at home…
He’s coming in your famous city again
You would think they would correct this grammar. He spilled his seed in Denver. Now he is making a mess in Portland.
Epic and Legendary
Yeah, that’s the ticket. Porn Valley. After 12 years they might be getting somewhat close. 40 others are already done. But they are legendary. Drunk on KoolAid only begins to describe the levels of delusion.
Jenny Lee de Becker says
Ultimate Havingness: here is my tip for all lurkers. Give yourself a six month holiday from Scientology spending. Just give it a try. Everyone needs a holiday every now and then.
bill straass says
Dear mike, i was married to sharron weber (if by slim chance she is still married to ken weber). For a few years. I totally agree with your description of her. I could tell you a number of other relavent things she did when i was on the ship. I am lucky that she divorced me my phone number is xxx xxx xxxx if you are willing to talk to me. I have heard by rumour that i have been declared sp i am living in dallas and am a friend of steve hall.
bill straass former mechanics chief freewinds
Mike Rinder says
Bill — thanks. I took your number out of the comment, but I put it in my phone. If I have some time I would love to hear your stories. Sharron still goes by Weber. Thanks for reaching out.
mimsey borogrove says
I met Riggs years ago – I knew his brother Anthony better, but I knew their mom Rene Duke the best.. She’s passed but there was never a nicer woman. We’d see her at Flag off and on, and have a meal with her in the Sandcastle. I’m shocked Riggs is a CEO of an oil company – it seems so different from the kid I knew ( I was a kid then as well.) who was so into the tech – so, his training promo doesn’t seem out of character in the slightest. Mimsey
Xenu's son says
Today’s young Sea Org members are have the emotional and educational level of salesclerks at an electronics store.
I scratch my head how I could have ever been so dumb that I would join and stay with such a group.
But in the past the group was different.
There were people like Renee.Cultured,eloquent,very well mannered,helpful.She was exceptional but there were many other people who were similar to her.No wonder we stayed and had a good time.
Now scientology is like going to the dentist every day.And you keep on losing teeth.
Mike Wynski says
mimsey It’s a bio-fuel oil company. Extremely high tech stuff,
Yes, Renee was one of a kind. And kind.
Robert Almblad says
the “oil company” is a flaky penny stock company trying to grow algae and extract the oil… very high tech stuff? Well, until you read their patent 8993314 B2 … check out their report to shareholders, it reads like any Scientology newsletter about expansion
http://www.originclear.com/company-news/originclear-2015-revenue-estimates-show-700-increase-over-2014
Mike Wynski says
“very high tech stuff?”
Yes, using bio-tech to extract oil IS high tech on the biology side. Ask any biologist working in that area.
Success or lack thereof doesn’t equal the technology used or required. But, that’s an interesting logical fallacy.
madge filpot says
I also liked Rene. Always kind and loved her kids.
Cece says
I was a kid to. I love Bob Dylan and her kids (she [Rene] arranged it) took me out on a surf day. I was allowed to just be a bit south of Bob Dylan. I got kicked out. I didn’t know Rene has past. It’s a long ride out…
chuckbeatty77 says
After seeing the “Why TRs” movie about 50 times in my years on the RPF, since on the PAC RPF in particular, every morning began with training films showings for the RPFers during our morning RPF period of enhancement time, the message in the “Why TRs” film includes the fact that that film is for the Class 6 auditor trainees. (Class 6 is the longest tech course in the whole Bridge lineup.)
The “Why TRs” film contains the moment when the narrator tells the audience that they (as Class 6 trainees) have to have the book (I forget which book, either Evolution of a Science or History of Dianetics, the slim pre Dianetics book) in their minds so well, that they know the tech of why it takes an auditor plus pc to deal with the pc’s bank, and that is the fundamental basic building block of why even two people together tackle the pc’s bank. The film shows a future decayed space civilization in outer space, and a young man teenager is teaching the TR course on this decayed planet to a group of future decayed planet citizens.
Hubbard’s implicit point is the Class 6 trainees watching this film have to have LRH’s tech so ingrained in their minds, that they in future lives will be operating totally on memory of the tech, which they have in their minds as they find themselves on other planets, up the road in the long future.
(It astounds me that the ASHOs and AOSHs don’t get a better luring advertisement for the “Why TRs” film to draw MORE people to the Class 6 level of training!)
I do think Hubbard did wish Scientology to be around for many many peoples’ many next lifetimes, for everyone to get trained up so they have the tech when it comes time that they find themselves on other planets, wondering what it is they are going to do now that they are planets where there’s no Scientology.
I think that is fantasy, but Hubbard’s ideas were for people to train, and especially the Class 6 trainees get this extra LRH movie to jog them into taking the tech seriously enough to really get it into their minds so that they carry it with themselves into the future lives on other planets.
As strange and useless as that seems to me now, I do think the current and constant drive to train themselves, especially to get up to Class 6 and Class 8, is consistent.
From my ex member viewpoint, the “Why TRs” movie had the greatest impact on my old Scientology mind due to this long range intent that LRH placed in it.
If the soul transmigrates, then “Why TRs” makes sense and is about the most important tech film LRH ever made.
I’m an atheist, and don’t believe in the soul doing any sort of transmigration, so it’s bogus to me today, but if I did believe in the soul, and were I in Scientology, I’d be training with the intent LRH implies is the correct long range tech training intention that LRH gives in the “Why TRs” movie.
And were I a Briefing Course sup, and overseeing people doing the film starrate checkouts, or were I given the responsibility to give exam questions on the long range importance of the “Why TRs” film, I’d be only giving passes if people grasped LRH’s long range views of that film I mention above.
It’s glorious delusion thinking to me now, I’d not wish anyone to really train in these ideas, but if I were a Scientologist, this type of thinking of the future of the tech, and LRH’s “legacy of tech” would be my thinking, unfortunately.
Cece says
Chuck, you are not alone.
Ann B Watson says
Hi Chuck, Thank you for a post which got me thinking about Ron’s intentions & Class 6.What an image of having to go to other planets for a billion years and do the tech.Ron did have a way with that space opera stuff! Honestly I am so happy I got out.
I respect your viewpoint on soul versus no soul.For me I know I am a spirit and I know within me resides my own power plant.I just feel when I pass away part of me will zoom to an eternal light of infinite love.Whatever or whomever or wherever this light may roam.The questions of the ages! Always read your posts.xo Ann.
Good People says
Chuck, I always read your comments as I find your insight into Sea Org culture extremely interesting and helpful. But at the risk of creating contention, I’m not a huge fan of atheism/materialism. I think it’s equally as dangerous as fundamentalist religion.
Joe Pendleton says
Don’t know if y’all will ever read this as the blog has moved on. But Chuck, “atheism” just means not believing in the supreme being, right? (although most atheists also proclaim against the spirit as well). I note this because I myself have always been an atheist, or agnostic, I have never felt that there was a God. But, I do believe that a person IS a spirit and not a body and that LRH was right in his first few axioms. One can be an atheist and not believe in materialism.
Mike Wynski says
Correct Joe. TECHNICALLY, Scientology is an atheist belief system that acknowledges the person’s “spirit”.
justmeteehee says
Shortbread?? Clouds??? One thing we Scottish people DON’T have is the ability to suffer fools, in the words of a Billy Connely bit… Gettifu Youbasa!
Sleepy says
I tossed and turned last night, uptight
Zero hour, three a.m.
And I must be out
Of my mind again
I miss my kids so much
I miss my wife
It’s lonely out at Int
Oh such a wasted life
And I think it’s gonna be a long, long, time
‘Til someone brings me ’round again to find
I’m not the man they think I am at all
Oh, no no no
I’m a rockhead man
Rockhead man
Burnin’ out from stress
Up here alone
Int ain’t the kind of place
To raise your kids
In fact, it’s cold as hell
And there’s no one here to raise them
If you did
And all of Ron’s tech
I don’t understand
It’s just my job
Eight days a week
A rockhead man
Rockhead Man
And I think it’s gonna be a long, long, time
‘Til someone brings me ’round again to find
I’m not the man they think I am at all
Oh, no no no
I’m a rockhead man
Rockhead man
Burnin’ out from stress
Up here alone
And I think it’s gonna be a long, long, time
And I think it’s gonna be a long, long, time
And I think it’s gonna be a long, long, time
Long, long, time
Long, long, time
Ah, no, no, no…
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no…
Cece says
Just keep breathing. You are loved.
sashiebgood says
why would anyone want to go to a meeting to listen to people talk about running around a pole? truly, they will try to fill ones time with the most ridiculous shit in scn… and ask for money for the privilege.
exccla says
I wonder if anyone ever get sick from the abestos on the moneywinds. There was a lot of talk about that several years ago. I think most of my disconnected family were there. Glad that was after my declare so i never was there.
Newcomer says
You are one smart cookie! Everyone who goes to the moneywinds either arrives or leaves sick IMHO!
alcoboy says
The Sick Boat soon will be making another run!
The Sick Boat, extracting money from everyone!
Ann B Watson says
Hi exccla, It is good to meet you.I cannot speak from personal experience on The Moneywinds,although I have no doubt that asbestos is very much there, even if covered up.I do have experience with two cancers which my amazing team of docs believe was turned on years after my horrendous no sleep schedule in SO Asho Fdn and tussling with abestos in the sub basement of the Manor back then and a lot of dust scraping on the Excalibur.And the stress of GO/ Intelligence.So no sleep back breaking work and at the end of my time there very little food etc.contributed with no family history.But I can be stubborn when I want to and I fight every day against any return of these cancers.I do enjoy life even more fully because of all this.I really hope your disconnected family will see the light and flee.
Also there was talk in the 70s about OTs and cancer at Asho.The stunningly beautiful spirit known as Yvonne who was Heber’s wife passed from a brain tumor.One of my favorite memories of a true pioneer who left us too soon.As have many many others.Always,Ann.
thegman77 says
Yvonne was one of my two all time favourite scios, both dedicated and ethical. The other was Hana Eltringham. I still love both of them.
Ann B Watson says
Hi thegman77, Oh how could I leave out Hana! Bad Ann.xxoo Ann.
Sleepy says
Sting revised for still-ins:
Yes I will place a fortress around your heart
Encircle you in trenches and barbed wire
Then I will build a bridge
But throw you in the chasm
And I will set your cherished dreams on fire
Fred says
Isn’t Galvin Potter ever going to get promoted?
Mike Wynski says
Fred, for a “Mini-Me” there is only one way to get promoted…
justmeteehee says
Is it just me or does he have a striking resemblance to a certain diminutive leader?
Xenu's son says
Come to the Freewinds to discover the dynamic principle of existence:Fleece!
Special guest speaker:Grant Cardone presenting Fleece or be Fleeced.
Sleepy says
Look for Dave’s soon to be released GAT 3, The Bridge To Total Fiefdom.
petlover1948 says
i haven’t had such a good laugh for a long time “coming.” thanks
Lawrence says
Why don’t these church members just walk around with a sign on them that says “Please knock my brains out of my head, I am going up the Bridge at Flag”. It would be more appropriate to the situation that they are in don’t you think? I thought about it without laughing using excellent SOLO Auditor TR’s. 🙂
Sleepy says
No more opinion leaders, just minion leaders. Hence the abbreviation, ML.
thegman77 says
Love isn’t on the Tone Scale. How did I miss that all those years ago? How can they make use of anything in their communications not recognized by Hubbard? It seems to be the one thing NEVER put into actual practice anywhere within the group.
Aquamarine says
What ARE we here – chopped liver? Robert Galibert NEVER comes in our town!
thegman77 says
And you’re complaining??? Wake up, Aqua, you’ve achieved a more peaceful nonGalibert existence. You should be celebrating.
I Yawnalot says
All examples of just how deep the rabbit hole of deception goes.
There is nothing about the Scientology Organisation that is honest. Miscavige is it’s expansion figurehead and master of its public’s misconception, hence he never appears in public and actively discourages new people from joining. He promotes nothing but promotion itself to an ever dwindling group of financially insane whales.
There is something in common with Scientologists and ex-Scientologists alike – they all know Scientology doesn’t do what it claims to do, otherwise it would be freeing people from such exploitation and mental introversion. Yet the blind cannot see they are blind, study tech is the largest misnomer they possess – they learn nothing but nothing itself and dress it up in tinsel!
Whatever Scientology claims it was as a group in the 60s under Hubbard is totally unrecognizable in any form today. Even the Briefing Course has disappeared, hence CL8 as well and the Bridge delivered at Saint Hill reads like a fairy-tale compared to what is delivered today. Bait and Switch is definition 2 of BS.
Nothing good eventuates from being a member of that organisation, past or present. And God forbid what it’d be like as a staff member tomorrow.
What really gets me is the wins the alleged OTs spew forth were obtained once upon a time after an evening of group processing or on introduction courses like the comm course. Their delusion knows no bounds, and is a first cousin of criminality by association. The only true enemy of Scientology is Scientology itself. The vested interest it once threatened rests peacefully and is assured nothing will come of it.
thegman77 says
“The only true enemy of Scientology is Scientology itself.” The actual heart of the matter. Not, mind you, that there IS any heart there.
Richard says
Moneywinds – Vampire Personality=Suppressive Person? VP=SP? Sounds squirrel. Is Moneywinds going squirrel? Yikes!
Magic and OT – Gavin Potter will recite factual information about this culture, this planet, this solar system etc. etc. Gavin better just be quoting LRH or he’s gone totally squirrel.
zemooo says
‘Prosperity Preaching’ didn’t get a lot of attention until the great depression of 1929-1940. The ‘preachers’ would set up a tent and tell the poor that they had to give money to get money (yeah, I simplified that a lot). The clam emphasis on ‘aligning postulates’ is the same scam. ‘You’re not believing/wishing/postulating hard enough!!”
Do I smell a cash flow problem in Clamtown?
Aquamarine says
“The history of magic and OT on this planet”.
Serious woo needed nowadays to get people to these things, apparently.
Xenu's son says
I strongly urge you to come to Steve’s rags to riches seminar.It is earth shattering,a milestone,It touches the very intersection of space and time.
Sounds half baked?No that is suppressive!Steve is in the baking business!So there you have it.He bakes to basics:
“Baked to Basics is our promise to actively collaborate with our partners and suppliers to create wholesome baked goods made with high quality ingredients that are thoughtfully sourced. It means we are dedicated to using ingredients and processes that are respectful of their environmental and social impact. Our hope is to inspire continued demand for more transparency in ingredient sourcing, production practices, and the industry as a whole.”
Did he and Sharon from the Freewinds have the same English teacher but then he supplemented it with Shermanspeak while Sharon was busy talking with the manicurists in her beauty shop??
Sleepy says
What’s it all about Davey
Is it just for this bullshit you live
What’s it all about
When you sort it out, Davey
Are you meant to take more than you give
Xenu's son says
I think Dianetics promotes the Jive Aces more than the Jive Aces promote Dianetics.
Their latest exploits(2014 release) with such unforgettable gems as” life is a game” has an Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #283,196 in music
At least Dianetics comes in at a respectable Amazon Best Sellers Rank of #30,669 in books
I am trying to figure out the game:Circl’n’ down the drain?Swing’n to the bottom?
Sit’n in the past?
Jive Aces,nation of Islam and geriatrics in bad fitting Superman costumes,Intergalactic space cooties.
Seems the sun set on Scientology a long long time ago.
Roger says
I will train all my life. How about getting a life and start living.
Old Surfer Dude says
Now, Roger, you know that’s not allowed!
Kemist says
Ok, please someone explain to this poor wog how this statement :
“I know I will train all my life…”
Is logically compatible with that statement :
“And with training, I get everything done fast and right the first time.”
Does not compute.
Out of chocolate chips error.
Retry, Abort, Reboot ?
Please wait while brain is rebooting…
Old Surfer Dude says
From my L.A. Times this morning: Kim Jong un declares 2016 a ‘Golden Age.’ Seriously. I’m tellin’ ya, one dwarf is trying to rip off another dwarf. I’d love to see them both in the Octagon. They can promote it as,”Little Fights.”
Sleepy says
When you piss off enough people, you then have a golden age.
Aquamarine says
🙂
Sleepy says
Words from the cob showed me the way
To be free of the crap all those SPs say
But the price of that GAT shit we all must pay
From now on
We decided to reg the land
Cuz our leader’s a one man band!
Dave stands tall
On apple crates and loud PAs
Dave stands tall
With real estate
He’s got it all
Dave stands tall!
Old Surfer Dude says
Hey la le la, hey la le We stand Fraud…
Sleepy says
Hey la de da, hey la de fuck you all. ?
Sleepy says
We decided to make some cash
And extort our fellow man
Hey blah blah blah
Hey blah blah blah blah blah, etc. ad nauseum
Ann B Watson says
Hi Mike, Thursday and one promo piece that jumped at me was the revealing fact that DMSMH has been redesigned to meet “the highest standards of readability” All hail Shermanspeak! I do believe I will pass the new new cob edition by.xo Ann.
Richard says
There is no price listed that I can see. I gotta call or e-mail. Dev-T! It’s probably a ploy to get someone in the shop for regging. I also pass.
Pete Griffiths says
Wilson is also a Scots name. For those who don’t know, Ron’s dad was adopted by the Hubbards and actually born a Wilson, meaning that Ron has no Hubbard blood in his body, but he is 100% Wilson.
Old Surfer Dude says
Just like the name of the volley ball in “Castaway.”
Chee Chalker says
No country wants to claim Old Fish Lips as one of their own.
Besides, we all know Ron came from the implant station on Mars and/or Venus
Leslie Bates says
Old Fish Lips?
That implies something from a Lovecraftian background.
Aquamarine says
It would be interesting to research that Wilson family history, to uncover LRH’s true genealogy.
alcoboy says
The Mormons would be more than glad to assist you in your endeavor.
Doug Parent says
Jive Aces have performed with…Lisa Marie Presley. Denver Org better get up to present time because its a well known fact that LMP doesn’t drink the Kool Aid anymore and mentioning an ex-scientologist in their promo isn’t exactly bright.
Gimpy says
“So great has been the demand for dianetics…” Yes we all believe this don’t we. No one gives a book away at 50% discount with a free DVD if it is already selling well, especially not a greedy cult like the scions.
The Denver event with guest speaker remind me of the Juiceplus/Herbalife events where there are a few people who have genuinely made money from it trying to convince the rest of us we can too. At least Herbalife are not pretending to be a religion.
Kemist says
Actually, in those events, the few people who genuinely made money often made it off the audience that’s listening to them.
Herbalife might not pretending to be a religion, but they’re pretending to be a legit business opportunity.
amulbunny says
Also sounds like an Amway group meeting, where tons of guys in suits with red ties and dressed up wives, stand up on stage and speak of their prosperity built on the back of unsuspecting drones. Never again.
Aquamarine says
Right!
When DMSMH is flying off the shelves, selling like hotcakes, when the demand is simply overwhelming, the thing to do is cut the book’s price in half and offer free swag and other incentives so that people will buy it!.
Oh, and lest we forget Expansion Principle #1:The emptier the orgs; the worse the PR Area Contol, the more objections there are out there to Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard and David Miscavige, the more vicious the attacks, well, the more Scientology is expanding, that’s all!
Sleepy says
That’s it! Ready to go to Int?
Old Surfer Dude says
Yeah, but, I’ve got to pack first…
Sleepy says
Bring some extra toothbrushes!
Old Surfer Dude says
I’m bringing a pack of 24. Let me know if we’ll need more…
Sleepy says
That should do it, at least for your first month. Welcome aboard shipmate!
Ann B Watson says
Hi OSD, As to the toothbrush flap.Do not panic Miss Annie has an entire semi truck loading up with the most OT toothbrushes ever.They stick to the toilet bowls and never let go!
Still on cloud 9 over your news.Love,Ann.
Aquamarine says
Int, huh? (Gulp)…
Sleepy says
I can confirm you for The Hole if you’re game.
Aquamarine says
The Hole! Moi? You honor me, Sleepy! Yes, please reserve a spot under the 3rd desk from the north wall for this Counter-Intentioned-to-Command Intention OtherFishFryer. Thanks.
Sleepy says
You got it! Be sure to leave all your credit cards, passport and any other valuables with Security.
Sleepy says
You’re such a special being Aquamarine. We so desperately need your class of thetan up here. You are SO OT!!!
Aquamarine says
🙂 🙂
I understand, Sleepy, and agree that tremendous responsibility rests upon the shoulders of CICS such as myself. My path from obedient koolaid-drinker to Supreme Suppressive has been straight up and vertical and never MIND that I was never SO or even on staff, I BELONG in The Hole.
Sure, I could be scrubbing bathrooms at Flag with a toothbrush or cleaning the grease traps of the Renaissance at PAC Base. Sure, these are miserable punishments in the extreme that hardly anyone on earth deserves.
The truth is that nothing but The Hole will suffice for my Crimes.
Forgive my lack of modesty.
An entire planet waits to driven insane.
COB has born it too long alone.
I share it with Him now
The time is now.
Willie AKA Good Old Boy says
Oh my goodness, Very funny Mike! More Scientology Diarrhea let loose on the koolaide
drinkers of the world. You really can’t make this shit up.
Old Surfer Dude says
Well, you can but nobody would believe you…
NewEraDiarrhea says
Being in Scientology really is like running in a hamsterwheel, day in, day out. And even at night, if you’re on staff. Running, running, getting nowhere. In that context it’s not very surprising that they can get people to consider running around a pole in a dark room to be the most enlightening “rundown” ever. Scientology is as much about “rundowns”, as it’s “run down”. Thank the Angry Drunken Dwarf!
lawgrrl34 says
Anybody else notice that the fabulous Fabos seminar is being coordinated by another Fabos? His wife maybe? Good grief. And if you cannot print a new flyer for your convention, don’t try to sell me your OT crap.
Mike Wynski says
Could also be titled, Thursday Sads. I remember when Riggs’ “OT” wife died of cancer a few years ago. Another youngish Boomer. At the time I thought that he would wake up…
Old Surfer Dude says
That is sad. Very sad. Are there a lot of OTs who have died from cancer? One of my favorite persons did, Yvonne.
Thomas Weeks says
That was more sad than funny.
Sleepy says
“And I thought my jokes were bad.” – The Joker (from The Dark Knight)
Wognited and Out says
Only in Scientology “EPIC Legendary Legacy” when the reality is EMPTY and Dwindling to nothingness.
grandeclectus says
Every time I seen anything about the Jive Aces, I want to hurl. They want us to believe they’re just a bunch of happy-go-lucky Scientology musicians, having the time of their their lives. Drummer Peter Howell’s daughter spoke out against her forced Scientology hellacious upbringing and lost childhood.
They have taken personal shots at me and my friends on social media for speaking out against the cult; grown men and an adult woman spouting childish accusations and infantile insults, just as they’ve been trained to do in their Scientology courses they paid to take!
Scientology can play make believe all they want. They can pretend that their world is all rosy and wonderful. Wins & Gains & Cognitions, oh my! But, the truth behind the scenes is ugly and twisted. How can they dare defend their BS?! They’re not the ones who should be casting aspersions to anyone. Glass house dwellers!
Old Surfer Dude says
grandeclectus, keep on speaking out! Their backlash at you only proves the scientology is really a group of angry people.
alcoboy says
It says in the Jive Aces promo piece that they played music for the queen at her jubilee. I’d like to somehow find out if this is true.
thegman77 says
I would be embarrassed to appear anywhere in those tacky yellow suits. Spectacularly unbecoming anyone. Much worse than the yellow Tshirts.
deElizabethan says
This stood out or me Mike .. so true and exactly what they do! “What happens when you delete all dynamics except the 3rd.”
Chee Chalker says
Hahaha….don’t the early versions of Dianetics have the ‘homosexuals are 1.1s, to be disposed of without mercy’ language?
So, they kill 2 birds with one stone. They get the offensive, non-PC versions back in their control, plus they ‘sell’ new ones. Rocketing Dianetcis back on the best seller list.
Newcomer says
A friend of mine has the first edition and it is signed by El Con and Diana. He’s going to keep it as a reminder of his experience with a cult and so his kids and grand kids won’t make the same mistake.
He has the insane claims all highlighted for reference!
Old Surfer Dude says
Coop, that is a great idea! My son and his wonderful wife watched “Going Clear.” Suffice to say neither of them have the slightest interest. As I’ve told them, this is an evil, toxic, militant, mind bending, brainwashing, family destroying, financial ruining, public schooling infiltrating, criminal enterprise masquerading as a religion.
Newcomer says
Don’t you think you might be overdoing it a bit?
🙂
Old Surfer Dude says
Yeah…you’re right, Coop. Alright, there adds for food look pretty good! How’s that?
thegman77 says
My sense has always been that they’ve stolen those food photos from elsewhere.
Gimpy says
If I may, I’d like to add misguided to your list of adjectives, there are plenty of decent people in scientology who really believe they can make a difference in the world. They are deliberately blinding themselves to the truth but then didn’t we all until the world of scientology itself drove us to discover it.
petlover1948 says
true Gimpy; alas the “wasband” my Ex thinks he is saving the world…..I wish I could just——
Chee Chalker says
I know an evil midget who would love to get his tiny mitts on that!
Aquamarine says
I’d love to get my hands on a first edition Science of Survival wherein LRH dedicates the book to “Alexis Valerie Hubbard”.
Sleepy says
“I never had a second wife.” – L.Ron Hubbard
Aquamarine says
Exactly! Well, he found Alexis in a cabbage patch.
Old Surfer Dude says
Oh, you mean his daughter that he kidnapped and took to Cuba and threatened to “chop her into pieces” to force his SECOND wife to retract all the bad (and completely true) things she said about Hubbard? And he still denied paternity of Alexis. Again, what a scumbag…
Sleepy says
What’s the matter OSD, you’re not into acceptable truths?
Aquamarine says
Did you read Marty’s last book? He saw Alexis when she was a young adult and said she was the spit and image of LRH. Same flame red hair too. I wonder where she is today? Whoo boy, talk about someone who could rock the Dwarf’s world. Then again, the cult has to be taking very good care of her to maintain the necessary silence. Oh, well – a bitter, defrocked apostate can dream…
Old Surfer Dude says
I am, EXCEPT when it comes to the cult…
Mary Smith says
yes my ex 2D secretly disposed on my original copy and replaced it with a new one. After he did this I got curious about what they were removing in the other books–what a gimmick.
Old Surfer Dude says
Mary did you bitch slap the bum?
Chee Chalker says
Wait…..training allows him to do things right the FIRST time? Except for all his scientology re-dos of course. He just forgot to mention those.