The disasters just keep on rolling. These three emails came in this morning.
Larry, Moe and Curly Joe couldn’t make this more slapstick….
First, after years in the “planning” SMI is sending out an URGENT email that must be answered TODAY to give information about delivering “GAG II.” Wonder what happens to the Missions that DONT have trained C/Ses, Co-Audit Sups and Auditors (ie practically every “Mission” listed on Scientology.org)? With GAG II “imminent” this is like asking at the altar whether your bride is a virgin. It’s a bit late for that sort of “Oh, I forgot to check….”
The second email is more of the idiotic — tell us you are confirmed and then we will at some point tell you when to come. But in the meantime, send us your photo so we can make an ID for you. To carry the wedding analogy on a little longer, this is like sending out invitations to your wedding, asking your guests to RSVP with no date set for the wedding, but send us a photo of you so we can verify you are who you say you are when you arrive at our undated event.
And the third email is another angle — obviously PALLET loads of materials are going to be shipped. They will be SOLD. The big push is coming to SELL, SELL, SELL more Miscavige Materials (R) whether you need them or not. They will probably have orders to destroy all earlier materials and it is predictable that like “The Basics” and everything else, some transcriptionists or SPs screwed it all up the last time Miscavige had personally supervised the absolutely standard tech that he released in GAG I. So, come to the wedding and you will be required to buy a dozen copies of our sooper-dooper wedding album.
Yamma, yamma, yamma, yamma….
From: SMI WUS
Date: Wed Oct 30, 2013
Subject: URGENT – DATA NEEDED TODAYDear Xxxx,
Data is needed urgently on your mission as part of the preparations for Golden Age of Tech Phase II release. Please give me the data in answer to each question immediately you receive this. If you have to go get some data, let me know at least that you received this and are onto getting it.
This data must absolutely be back to me by today (Wednesday).
1. What is your mission’s premises square footage?
2. How many course rooms do you have and how many seats in each.
3. How many auditing rooms do you have in your mission?
4. Can your mission deliver TRs and Objectives on a Co-Audit basis?
5. If you can deliver it, do you have a trained Co-Audit Supervisor? If you don’t have one, who Sups it?
6. Do you have a trained C/S in the mission? If so, give the name and training level of the person or persons.
7. CONDITIONAL: If no trained C/S in the mission, who does the C/Sing for the mission?
8. Do you have trained auditors on staff at the mission?
– If so, list the name of the person and their training level.
– Note if the person is single hatted as an auditor or holds another post in the mission and list out that post or posts.
– Do you have anyone on the TTC? If so, who and for what training?
9. Do you have a Purif I/C posted? Also note if any other staff in the mission are trained to deliver Purif.Get this data immediately and send right back to me. I repeat, it must be back with me by today – Wednesday. Thanks.
ML
Tony
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Date: Tue, Oct 29 2013
From: zsombor.s@flagaccommodations.org
Subject: IMPORTANT! UPCOMING EVENTS AT FLAG!Hi!
How are you doing?
My name is Zsombor, I’m writing to you from Flag.
This is in regard of the upcoming Golden Age of Tech ll and Flag Building Grand Opening events.
The event is imminent, it is within weeks! That is why I need to give you all the data about your accommodations and flight, because as soon as we have the date we are going to have to book you right away.
We need an ID portrait photograph of yourself to place on the Flag Event Pass Card. Just send it to this my e-mail address. Your pass will be ready for you to pick up at Event sign in at The Fort Harrison upon your arrival to Clearwater.
Please send me the photo and after that we set a time for a comm cycle on the phone regarding your accommodations,transportation and food, and in order to complete the information for this card I need some personal data from you. This is done by every single event attendee.Don’t hesitate if you have any further question! Just let me know!
Regards,
Zsombor Szamek
The Oak Cove Hotel
Front Office Manager
Flag Land Base
Fax: (727) 467-5005
Cell Phone: (727) 639-2070###
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013
From: SMI WUSDear Xxxx,
Data has just come our way that makes it imperative that a BSO is posted right away.
There are key missions in WUS who will be receiving GAT II materials directly. You are going to be getting a LOT of GAT II materials, ie pallets of materials (literally within a VERY short period of time – we are already verifying delivery addresses and have been told to be ready) as part of getting ready for GAT II delivery.
This makes it absolutely vital to get the BSO onto post. With this amount of material, you know it will all have to be inventoried, stocked to minimum stocks and moved into the hands of the public. This is the total job of the BSO. Add to that you can be sure that the stocks on GAT II materials will be heavily monitored by uplines so the admin on them will need to be impeccable. We don’t need this function wrapping around the necks of the execs because the function will need to be done. We even have an Int Management program for the BSO post which puts in target by target the policy functions of the post.
It is of course also part of the RTC Minimum Standards to have a BSO posted. So get with whomever you have to and work out how to get a BSO on post this week.
ML
Tony
Dear Scientologist,
After you send me your photo for your ID badge, there is another thing you need to do before the event. Here is also the sequence for entering the tent.
You will have received by now the list of DNA labs nearest to your local org. Within the next two days, you need to go your designated lab and let them do a swab of the inside of your mouth for a DNA analysis. Your exact DNA structure will be sent to you within one week. You MUST bring this document with you to the event. You will also need to bring a passport or your birth certificate with you to the event for added verification of identity.
After you pick up your badge at the entrance to all Flag events, proceed to the DNA booth next, where you will have another swab and have your identity verified via our spectacular new 10 million dollar “quick DNA identifying device.”
Next proceed to the electronics booth and check in any electronic devices you have, including cell phones and cameras.
Next proceed to the semi-strip search booth (not to worry, just down to your underwear). Here a final search will be made for any devices that may be smuggled in by any “undesirables.”
Next proceed to the “Status Booth” – you will have the following stati verified: IAS status, Super Power Building status, Local ideal org status, Area ideal org status, Continental ideal org status, CCHR status, “that guy rowing the boat across the ocean” status and any other stati that may be designated between now and the event. Appointments will be made at this time with regges for each of the preceeding stati.
Then TO THE EVENT! Four hours of flashing lights, loud cheap bad movie music, false stats and mostly the sing song babble of our illustrious leader.
ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t forget to hand in your passport and any jewelery you won’t be wearing for safekeeping.
Joe P, you’re a riot!
That said, I would not be at all surprised if the suggestions you’ve given here tongue-in-cheek have not actually been already discussed. These guys are so paranoid now! Before they will release the date of the events they are demanding peoples’ photo IDs, IAS membership #s, other data AND travel plans discussed on the phone with a Flag AND accommodations at the FH booked (!) so that all data can be crossed referenced. THIS is the qual process for anyone who actually agrees to attend! Imagine how this must be going over with public who even without this nonsense have to organize their family matters, businesses, etc in order to fly to Florida for a few days. I’m thinking that anyone who would really OK with jumping thru these hoops at the last minute PLUS the DevT of the pre-qual process would have to be a sitting duck for any and all reg efforts.
LOL! Joe you forgot the microchip implants!
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Notice that HE will give YOU the data about your accommodations and flight, and THEY are going to book you.
So no use trying to stay at Motel 6 to save money…you’ll be staying at the Fort Harrison (at “special event rates”), buying meals up front ($30 for an original burrito, yum! Don’t forget to leave a bit on the plate for the staff, since it’s made using the RPF beans and rice ration.)
You’ll also be paying a Scion travel agent for your flight, (doubtless with nonrefundable fares, ensuring that you can’t leave until they let you.
I’m getting the odd feeling that Little Boots is just squeezing the stones one last time, and doesn’t really expect that most of these people will stay in after this event. Some Caribbean island with no US extradition treaty is about to get a mysterious rich hermit, methinks.
From the info I could glean from his public Facebook data, Zsandor is about 18 or 19, from a Scion family and went to a good high school. Hope his experiences at Flag will be the catalyst that gets them out so he can go to college and start a life.
I have questions to anyone who was “in” scientology(and those with time to answer). When the first GAT was released how was it recieved by the members?
Also how do you think this new GAT will be recieved?(if anyone cares to speculate)
When GAT first came out, my first thought was that something didn’t smell right. How could anyone but LRH introduce ‘new and improved’ tech? The only way I got myself to halfway accept it, was the understanding that GAT was mostly just an extreme drilling regimen, and not fundamental changes to the technology itself.
What I didn’t know at the time, is that a massive revolt occurred amongst field auditors, who had their certs threatened with cancellation if they didn’t re-do all their auditor training GAT style. Apparently, GAT prompted a huge exodus from the church, which most average Joes knew nothing about.
This is a comedy of errors. It’s getting beyond ridiculous! Today I received and email from: emails@scientologyscotland.org.uk Talk about hard up. I successfully got my refund from the AOLA in 2010, when I sent them my letter of resignation due to gross out tech in my auditing. I have never been to Europe. Why am I receiving an email from Scotland about their Golden Age of Tech 2? The email included links for IAS donations and so forth. I tried to copy and paste but that feature was blocked. Interesting. Guess they did not want their email on the fringes of the internet with unemployed bloggers that are hanging on by a thread. All I can say is the end is near for the corporate church.
Hey to all of you on the fence. Get off the fence! Make a clean, clear decision to leave and do it now. If you can, come forward and join us but if not…with family members still in, then just kind of melt away like fog on a sunny day. There are many out here that will be your friends, Independent, or whatever you decide to become…it is all OK. Talk about a safe space. You are in a trap. Wake up! You have been lied to and you have been betrayed. It can only get better if you leave. I mean this sincerely. If you have loved ones in the SO, then do what you have to do but STOP supporting this insanity.
Each of the staff members of these hapless orgs need to apply a new and improved version of Steven Hassan’s BITE model called BITE ME whenever these bloodsuckers call.
Imperative that a BSO is posted? I’m guessing that someone had a brilliant cognition that it’s time to blow the dust off those E-Meters sitting in storage for 9 years and sell those damn things. I’m sure there won’t be any problems with them after sitting that long. The public must be so excited to have new stuff that will be imperative to buy. Be sure to bring all your credit cards and check book to the event. Oh wait that’s right the event that can’t seem to actually be scheduled! What a train wreck.
ThetaPotata,
You forgot , bring your small children that can carry a shovel and carry rocks.
D.M. likes that.
Jose – Yes, I’ve only recently cognited on how coveted the kids are. So much easier to dominate and mind control. I was lucky, got in when I was about 20. I remember being recruited heavily for S.O. and I kept getting this image of a fly stuck on flypaper trying to talk another fly into landing because it’s so great.
Thetapotata, you have no idea how close to exact truth your analogy is. I lived it and it is “a fly stuck on flypaper trying to talk another fly into landing because it’s so great.”
OSD,
Tiny Dwarf has been estimated personal net worth at $50 mil for a while.
He does control 1 to 2 Billlion plus USD which can be checkbooks, ATM cards
( multiple offshore banks) that fit in a Golds Gym bag.
In hard currency such as Gold bullion Bars your looking at a dozen or more
eighteen wheel transport trucks.
Thanks, Jose! With everything falling apart, I just figured he’d be taking off soon with quite a chunk of change.
Is there such thing as Grammar Tech? These morons need it.
Yeah that was on the KTL which none of them have done.
Maybe we should each email Zsombor Szamek. Think he has a database of SP’s? Maybe use other names. Show our enthusiasm for coming to the event. Spend lots of time discussing options for travel, accommodations, etc. I’m naughty enough to be very tempted. I know payback is never a useful strategy but would love a little payback for all of my time that has been wasted on such bs.
Yvonne, I LOVE your naughty ideas….I’m with ya sista! I’ve also had the crazy ideas of using their return envelopes (Trojan horse), faxes, emails, etc. to forward a few choice articles. I figure something has to get through, maybe laid aside or quickly folded into a pocket or purse for later perusal. It’s still hard to think they don’t have a hint of their imminent demise. What will happen when some court case freezes the church’s assets? Will the staff be evicted or am I getting too far ahead of myself? It appears that the church isn’t far from imploding and I wonder if a preemptive class action lawsuit to “control” it’s assets wouldn’t end with a better outcome than having the government seize the church. There probably isn’t anyone who would say no to getting some of their money back. But more than that, I think a great number of us would agree that getting reimbursement for staff that were horrifically shortchanged, and maybe even recovery of some of the large ”dono nations” would be a corrective action. What say you all??
Speaking for many tens of thousands of Scientologists who’ve been victimized by the heinous cabal that stole our church, I have little faith that most of us will ever see real justice exacted on our behalf.
They took our money, our faith, our trust, our hard work, our families, our youth, our dignity, and our hopes and dreams. Perhaps worst of all, they systematically and deliberately destroyed as much of the Bridge as they could get away with, and shut off access to much of the rest of it. They broke the self determined alliances of honest people who built the many orgs, missions, and other groups. And they absolutely destroyed the name of Scientology, which effectively stole much of our future.
Who’s going to give all that back to us? No one will. The degraded, soul-less cretins who committed those crimes against us don’t have the power to create what they’ve utterly demolished. It will only be restored if we ourselves rebuild it. In time, I think we will, but now is a time for reflection and healing.
I’ve considered printing out CSI’s admissions to harrassment in Monique Rathbun’s case and mailing it back to them, along with their Advance magazines and whatnot.
I agree that compensation should be given to staff, former and present. Both my parents are bankrupt and have no pension as a result of this scam. I would be very happy if they at least got a minimum allowance for the rest of their lives, plus funeral services covered (very expensive). I am sure other people and their children feel similarly. Some people are great at business, others not so much. I’m still trying to figure out how to save the day in the long run.
That said, I doubt there are enough assets to cover even that aspect, let alone refund the people who donated their money and their kids’ futures away. Overall, it’s a dead loss. I’ll take Jose Chung’s words to Wendy M. to heart and write down lessons learned and realise something good will come of this.
I agree with sending stuff in – Trojan horse style. HCO opens everything and reads it first. If enough outer org HCO terminals get enough truth (have enough seeds planted) then there is a chance that it will start eating the beast from the inside out. We are working here on the outside to expose the truth. If we can get them discussing this on the inside, it will end up being like a tree that is dying from the inside out. It will turn to mush and we will just be able to push it over.
I don’t think anyone here wants to destroy people’s ability to deliver Scientology, only the rotten to the core current delivery system.
So send away. You don’t have to put your return address on those envelopes anyone. Just put your comm in there and let them read it. There’s no way they can’t open their envelopes when they come in the mail.
I think that’s a brilliant idea, krcjenny et al.
Yvonne – GREAT idea!! I am already on it! Poor Scientologist’s won’t know who to believe anymore…the SP’s are everywhere!! LOL
Naughtily delightful Yvonne!
Greta
You have to feel for folks like Zsombor (Hungarian) above. He’s got impossible orders with hopelessly unreal targets to meet and no data or even dates to work with. He only wanted to make a difference and to help somehow. Where did it all go wrong? he must privately wonder. Now he’s just another spiritual casualty of the seemingly never-ending madness of His reign. Let it be over soon. Really.
Oh please, please guys – hold it, my sides are hurting from laughter!
Must-ravage must have a daily quota of mentally slaughtering staff.
Nice result for no longer delivering the DSEC (Data Series Evaluator’s Course).
Any logic has crawled into a dark hole by now.
ID cards -great! :(, but what about mandatory body scan and body cavity search? How could that important point have escaped to ensure TOTAL SECURITY at these events?
Greta
Rumor has it that they’re hiring the TSA as security for this event 😉
What is the TSA?
What is the TSA?
Transportation Security Administration. You know….the folks who feel up grannies in wheel chairs at the airports.
Ronnie you and Jose are so funny!
You know, Ronnie, I get strip searched at LAX by the TSA everytime I fly out of that airport. It costs me $25, but, hey, it’s worth it!
Nice to get a massage before you get on the plane.
I’d much rather have a little personal contact than that little human microwave/DNA changer that they make you walk through. I just tell them I can’t go through because of medical reasons and they let me go without getting in that thing.
Transport Security Administration.
You know the same people at the airport who ask you to take off your shoes before fondling you.
This was in reply to Hallie Jane above. I’m still not sure what I’m doing wrong. I click “Reply” and then type in the box, but it posts it at the bottom instead of below the post I am resonding to.
Thanks Chris….got it. It seems that anyone can give orders to anyone . Command intention is a perversion of LRH’s intention being respected as the source of Scn. I am flabbergasted that anyone would give dave mismanage the same deference.
“Tony”, whatever his post is, is off it and is following “command intention” I guess. The fact that he can just send off emails like this to missions tells me that there is no such thing as management. It’s about as organized as a badly run “WOG” company. They apparently dont even follow basic LRH Admin policies anymore. It’s just “I do what someone above me said Miscavige wants us to do”. Maybe that could be his post title.
This from a recent Tampa Bay Times article:
“City officials have been frustrated that the church won’t provide dates. They wonder how streets and sidewalks already congested by a busy fall event schedule could accommodate unannounced events that the church estimates will draw up to 10,000 members.
Cretekos said it’s time for the church to be a better community partner. “What kind of example is this setting for your parishioners, let alone for the city of Clearwater? If it is in fact wanting to be treated as a church, it ought to set an example all of us can be proud of and this is not happening,” Cretekos said.”
The general “screw you; we’re important and you are just a peon,” attitude from sea org gestapo is evident in miscavige’s dealing with the city of Clearwater, just as in these letters to mission staff. Any half-informed person would know that the vast majority of missions have a couple of staff and are only open a few days a week. I know that. Why doesn’t Tony?
The complete dissasociation from reality in these emails and the complete arrogance toward the city of Clearwater are pretty strong indicators that miscavology and miscavologists are going to be in for a rude awakening from their sociopathic slumber very soon.
Scientology is putting out ANOTHER ad for actors, this time in Florida. This is not the same one Mike posted about the other day – it’s a new one.
Looks like the Super Power building, as they are advertising in Clearwater, Florida for actors to be in a photoshoot about a building they are opening. Can you believe this????
They don’t have enough beautiful Sea Org members or OOTs in Clearwater to be able to put a photoshoot together for the SP building? And they sure as hell don’t have enough beautiful Scilons.
Here’s the link:
http://www.starnow.com/Casting-Calls/Models-wanted/Print/15_models_actors_needed_for_inhouse_scientology_photo_shoot.htm
Great find Joe.
Interesting the photo shoot is going to be sometime after 4 November so the building is definitely not opening before then.
WHat does it say about an organization that is so fearful that it cannot use its own people in photos to promote to its own people about the building THEY purchased. There are hundreds of them there. sitting around doing nothing, nut instead they are going to spend money to pay actors.
Gold’s viewpoint is that, if they use you in a photoshoot, they are ‘promoting’ you. So, right off the bat, you are disqualified if you have ever been a) in the SO, b) on staff and/or c) some kind of ethics bait ‘in their eyes.’
And then now, they have the risk of putting you in one of their films and then you go and get yourself declared, like Michael Fairman did. Awwww, and then they have to do do-overs and re-shoot everything.
Much easier to use actors who AREN’T Scientologists. If they’ve never been in, they can never blow and ruin Davey’s masterpieces. (cough cough)
They can’t use their own people to pose for photoshoots nowadays because these same people will probably have to be airbrushed out, erased out once they blow, leave, or speak out publicly or become “disaffected” as so many are doing now. I think it is hilarious that they don’t dare use their own SO or Public because they may later do or say something wrong and have to be erased and promo re shot.
!50 bucks for an all day photo shoot!
The going rate is usually 150 per hr.
Whatever…
I see it’s stills of enthusiastic public and helpful staff.
Yeah right.
What kinda dream world they living in?
Obviously it was a no go on finding “enthusiastic public” or “helpful staff” or both.
Betcha FH reception is like a Funeral Home these days.
Which begs the question:
“What if they held an event and nobody came?”
I figure aside from Lil’ Davy’s legal woes is the fact that nobody seems to care any more.
Probably besides the casting call is Gold or what’s left of it downloading the latest copy of PhotoShop so they can cut and paste those multitudes that won’t exit in a patchy and leaky Tent that’ll probably get blown away in one of those hurricanes that hit Florida and the Keys this time of year.
No sweat.
Most likely there’ll be nobody in ’em ‘cept maybe Davy and a couple of prompters with the pillars of doom behind him.
Sorta brightens up my day when I think about it 🙂
just like little Baby Jane performing to an empty room, yet the crowds roar their approval in her mind. That will be Davie in front of the pillars of doom. Present time? Reality? Who needs ’em? They’re overrated in Davie’s opinion.
I would love to see this event. But not in the org obviously only in the safe comfort of my own home. Can someone steal the dvd when it gets released and upload for all to see? The curiosity of GAG 2 is there for me as I was personally involved with the first one and being trained as a sup and an auditor, I’d love to know how squirreled all these new releases are going to be.
First off, doesn’t SMI have all the data they are asking for? I mean what else are they doing???
Secondly, it is major dev-t to confirm to an event that doesn’t have a date. Who does this??
Thirdly, asking for photos to confirm the identities of people shows a mass paranoia and the also the fact that the “lunatic fringe” is impinging on the cult. What do they have to hide anyways??
“… asking for photos to confirm the identities of people shows a mass paranoia and also the fact that the “lunatic fringe” is impinging on the cult. What do they have to hide anyways??” My thoughts exactly…. if they go to this much trouble to make everyone have a pictured ID card, then they are very worried about the fringie SP’s infiltrating and having it all appear on Mike’s or Tony’s sites. I hope Anonymous shows up.
Absolutely nothing has changed since I left staff 20 years ago. Management is STILL clueless and is STILL causing HILL 10s. BSO ON POST NOW NOW NOW. Of course this must be in all caps, because they are screaming like fucking lunatics.
Yet, we are to believe that these individuals have the precious gift of superior “administrative technology” that is light-years ahead of those goofy wogs. The Sea Org will show you how it’s done:
First, get some 14 year old Eastern European with poor English, who just got off the boat.
Second, give me a military uniform and tell him he is now an “executive” with all sorts of power.
Third, give him unreal, undoable targets and reassure him that he’s lived thousands of lives and has run entire planets; that he simply has to decide to do it.
Fourth, if he balks, find his too gruesome (Siberian prison camp comes to mind), but also determine a reward (he gets to stay in balmy Florida living in submarine conditions with eight other guys).
Fifth, give him a hearty, Tone 40 START! – and step back and watch the magic happen!
I mean, how could they lose?
(Note: Nothing personal against Eastern Europeans…)
A wise man said: He who lifts up the tail to stare closely into the ass of an elephant will soon receive a big pallet load of hot-steaming GAT II materials. Or you can go to the event.
Thoughtful — I thought the saying went .. he would stares too long at an Elephant’s ass, will soon see a Princess standing before him.
Are the photo ID’s only for the big weekend, or are they going to be required for everyone who wants to see the oily table forevermore? Because that could open up all sorts of possibilities…
All three emails smack of desperation. Deep, deep desperation.
Very Off Topic: I’m currently reading “Leaving Scientology,” by Jefferson Hawkins. I can’t put this book down! Mike, I hope it’s ok to plug this incredible book. With his 35 years inside the cult, it lays out things I never knew about. Especially about the tiny dwarf. Apparently, he’s now worth $50 million.
That is arguable! Not sayin’ he does not have access to that much stolen fiat currency.
I thought just for fun to answer the following questionnaire from the perspective of most “Mission Holders”(in name only since most of them don’t actually have an actual mission per se but a post office box instead and a 30 grand mission package sitting in their garage forcing them to park their Lexus on the street.) currently in the WUS.
Anyhoo…
1. What is your mission’s premises square footage?
Hmmm…
Not sure.
Haven’t measured it
Enough to fit several average sized envelopes.
2. How many course rooms do you have and how many seats in each.
Course room???
Are you kidding?!
No one told me I needed a course room when I bought this mission package!!!!
3. How many auditing rooms do you have in your mission?
Auditing rooms????
WTF????
Nobody told me I’d have to audit PCs when I graduated the Solo Course!!!
4. Can your mission deliver TRs and Objectives on a Co-Audit basis?
Huh????
See answer to question 2.
5. If you can deliver it, do you have a trained Co-Audit Supervisor?
????
All I’ve got is a trained chef to handle the barbecue when I have Mat over to give a seminar.
If you don’t have one, who Sups it?
Whatza sup???
6. Do you have a trained C/S in the mission?
I did a while back but I was told to make him a BSO and he blew.
If so, give the name and training level of the person or persons.
I got a friend who did the HQS course back in the ’70’s.
Do they qualify?
7. CONDITIONAL: If no trained C/S in the mission, who does the C/Sing for the mission?
Usually any PC we manage to sign up.
They do their own auditing as well.
8. Do you have trained auditors on staff at the mission?
Trained auditors????
No one said anything about trained auditors when I signed my Mission Charter!!!!
Oh wait a minute!
I did have one once!
But he blew after I suggested he audit my wife who has a contract with the CIA and works for Fox News.
Almost had him closed.
Till I mentioned her time at St. Elizabeth.
Wonder why?
Anyways.
Guess the answer is “no”.
I mean who needs auditors anyway.
David Miscavige told me personally to just concentrate on making Scientologists.
You know people who blindly follow him and make donnonations when asked.
– If so, list the name of the person and their training level. -
N/A
N/A
Note if the person is single hatted as an auditor or holds another post in the mission and list out that post or posts. -
The guy I had before did everything for me.
Cleaned the house, walked the dog, baby sat the kids, walked the dog, he even did windows!
I miss him.
Do you have anyone on the TTC?
TTC????
What’s that?
I vaguely remember the definition being in one of those old books that were edited by SPs which you told me to burn.
So I’d really appreciate you sending me a definition for this TTC dude ’cause I can’t seem to find it in any of the glossaries.
If so, who and for what training?
From what I heard didn’t TTC people spend most of their time in the ethics department?
I didn’t know they got trained as well.
9. Do you have a Purif I/C posted?
Purif I/C????
I thought anyone who needed the purif was sent to Flag.
Also note if any other staff in the mission are trained to deliver Purif.
You mean you gotta get trained to deliver the purif????
How come that wasn’t on my Solo Course???
The typical “Mission Holder” these days.
Thanks to the Sea Org “moving in” and wiping out the whole Mission Network back in ’82.
Anyhoo..
I couldn’t avoid commenting on the following:
It is of course also part of the RTC Minimum Standards to have a BSO posted. So get with whomever you have to and work out how to get a BSO on post this week.
How nice.
Forget about all that extraneous stuff like auditing PCs and training auditors what RTC wants is someone to sell the latest edition because the earlier editions as we know were edited by “SPs”.
Due to overwhelming answer from all the Scientologists, and to be fair our CoB has instructed us to perform a double check:
1) Anyone wishing to attend any of these events has to submit at least two diamond-class credit cards.
2) For those of you not wishing to send these, you have to FedEx AT ONCE a Cashier’s Check for at least $25,000 US Dollars, payable to the Church of Scientology.
In both cases, no illegal use of funds will be done, as our enlightened and beloved Leader is controlling every bit of this cycle.
1) or 2) will guarantee the best seats available, and will be used a Golden Era Certificate of good standing.
Zso SO
“Mayor George Cretekos had strong words for the church Tuesday.
“My frustration with Church of Scientology apparently increases every day. I hate to say that. But I just don’t understand why they think they’re different than any other church or institution in the city of Clearwater,” he said.”
http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientology/city-orders-scientology-to-stop-work-on-enormous-tent-in-clearwater/2149704
This reminds me of the “Running around the pole” drill. Seems there’s a little bit of that going on with this GAG II business. DM is chasing the public to try to get them to the event that doesn’t exist yet and the mission holders. For a smile. http://youtu.be/p9oC2WZGK6Q
Oh-Ohhh. Looks like RTC IS RUNNING SCIENTOLOGY…oh, Ray Jeffries…Theodore Babbitt – take notes! Get Zsombor to the court room for a deposition. He sounds rather desperate.
He obviously has not been through the Golden Age of Scam I and the Basics Scam or ACC Scam….he is new and does not know! He probably came from a third world country where Scientology promised him a new life and three hots and a cot…and he is finding out – the hots – not so good. The cot – sucks. The “new life” – SLAVERY!
how long before davey boy insists the flock be implanted with multipurpose “Ideal mirco chips”?
Lols at ” imminent”
Like in imminent peril, imminent danger?
So does Mighty Midgets GAT Deuce tell followers to lead with the left, followed by a right cross, next an uppercut with a kick to the gut to total freedom?
Oh, you need a BSO on post this week? Well, why didn’t you say so before? We have at least five people who love selling things, just sitting around with nothing to do. We’ll just ask one of them. I’m sure I can comply with this target before lunch, we are just overloaded with people who want to be on staff.
All sarcasm aside, this order reminds me of so many old telexes that just put staff into despair. It’s the kind of order that makes staff feel overwhelmed and incompetent, not realizing that their difficulties are all being manufactured by oppressive and incompetent management at the very top of the command chart.
Totally agree Dave. Reminds me of program targets like “Get 12 auditors posted to the HGC and get them producing”. These folks are so divorced from reality.
Notice the veiled threat…
“It is of course also part of the RTC Minimum Standards to have a BSO posted.”
So? Most staff would welcome being shutdown by RTC for failing to maintain their minimum standards. It would be a long overdue break from the madness. Staff could get some sleep, handle some debts and eat some proper food.
No, they need someone on the ground that can be called the BSO so they have someone to phone and scream at.
“By not complying with this target, you are out of step with the rest of Scientology and are holding up expansion……….”
Dave and Statpush — right on the money!
“…this order reminds me of so many old telexes that just put staff into despair.”
So true! I was on staff for 10 years. It got to a point where I intentionally dedicated one day per week to handling nothing but program targets and other inane orders, just so I was able to actually work on my hat the rest of the time. Their relentless stat push caused staff to come up with all sorts of unusual solutions, just to get “seniors” off our backs.
Requesting a singe-hatted BSO, is like requesting a single-hatted Whale-rider. Somebody hand me some Kool-aid, I’m feeling a little fractious at the moment 🙁
I’m really not riffing on the name “Zsombor Szamek”, but doesn’t the syntax and feel of the text of his email remind one of those Nigerian scams?
I think that’s remarkably appropriate on a number of levels. I’m guessing that, more and more, that’s who’s manning ramparts at Flag.
The name looks Hungarian to me. I have heard many East Europeans are being recruited. They take it as a way to get into the US.
It’s a Hungarian name.
Thanks.
But the text still has a bit of the feel of one of those sort of scams.
Zsombor is likely Hungarian. Szamek though could be Czech, Slovak, Hungarian or perhaps even Romanian. No matter what the passport, he’s ethnically Hungarian.
Who the f*#@ is Tony? No post, just “Tony”. When I was on staff we got so much of this off-lines comm it was disgusting. If I was a Mission ED I would want to tell this guy to go jump off a cliff. Who would want a mission if you cant run it? Why is “Tony” sending me pallets of materials I haven’t ordered? Why is “Tony” running my org board? If it was my mission I think Tony and I might have some problems. No wonder there are no missions. Jesus. It’s International “hey-you” Management.
+1 I was also thinking re: the first email……If it was your job to run missions wouldn’t you have all that data already? Wouldn’t it be YOUR JOB to actually help the missions to have qualified auditors, c/s’s and supervisors? Wouldn’t your interest be, that all the missions were delivering quality auditing and training? Wouldn’t that be your ONLY job? The corporate church is completely off purpose and dev-ting the shit out of anyone, who’s still trying to deliver the actual product of Scn. The wins of pcs and preots and well trained auditors should be the ONLY concern of anyone managing Scn, not real estate scams and ridiculous tents and certainly not rewriting LRH’s works.
Well said. Spot on!
Truth and truth again. Go Hallie!
“Tony” is no doubt Tony Bazuik, the Esto of SMI WUS. You know, the Esto that went from Mission to Mission in the WUS ripping off staff for Ideal Orgs that he still hasn’t replaced. That’s an Esto’s job, isn’t it? Not ESTABLISHMENT, but DISESTABLISHMENT. Right in the valence of Miscavige.
I shouldn’t be surprised. Tony’s an Aussie, the country which was founded as a penal colony for criminals.
I am an Aussie too…
I was going to say, “Present company excluded” for Mike…but then again, he’s a pirate and a bum in the real sense. He doesn’t back down from anybody.
Ah, the “get a BSO” crush order. Same thing happened when the basics came out. I think every org in Africa got one of those and, of course, we lost every one of them. The pressure on the Joburg BSO was so intense I believe he quite literally snapped. When he had the audacity to report up the madness being perpetrated by the CO CLO the ED Joburg & others in the name of “getting basics into the hands of all Scientologists (as many times as we can)” he was threatened physically. This was taken to it’s inevitable conclusion. He left, he “attacked”, he was declared.
I hope he’s ok now. I wish him well.
Threatened physically? Wow. Glad he is out and I too hope he is OK! And declared? – well congratulations are in order!
Yes he if fine. He has been discovering the freedom that lies on he outside of this bubble. He is pretty bitter about the experience though.
Who can’t see thru this?
Anyone wearing blinders…. 🙂
+1 or people who have gone blind from drinking too much Kool-Aid.
As he says, it is Miscavage leading the blind leading the blind. But Mike let’s keep shining light on it so that some of the blind wake up and see. This blog is so important to do that.
Is this a Halloween trick or treat prank? “Please send me the photo and after that we set a time for a comm cycle on the phone regarding your accommodations,transportation and food…” This sounds like they are going to announce the date by telephone rather than risk an email announcement being leaked. So, someone sends in a photo, and then that action is translated to mean that person has confirmed he/she is attending. Next, the telephone calls start, pinning down hotel/food/flight/”donations.” What happens if someone fails to send in a photo? So is the “trick” the fact that you receive hounding telephone calls after you send the photo? Or is the “trick” the fact that you receive hounding telephone calls if you don’t send in the photo? It’s a treat not to have to make the Hobbesian choice of sending or not sending the photo.
Funny and incisive comment, SOYS. I can only imagine the degrees of annoyance and exasperation being experienced by publics being subjected to this “invitation” process. Could turn out to be a wake-up call for some of them, if they’re pressured too much.
Cussin’ A. That Tony guy is a real peach. I love this line: “We don’t need this function wrapping around the necks of the execs because the function will need to be done.” What a maroon!
It is bizarre to watch the inside mechanics of this evolving…. rather than just watch the finished product that D Miscarriage wants us to see. I have a friend who was “Executive Protection” for many years and whenever we are out in a crowd together he’s always scanning the crowd looking for “the setup”. He says that in order to truly handle anything untoward that could happen to his clients, he had to be able to recognize “the setup.” I have seen him handle and avoid some amazing situations as we were traveling in foreign countries.
What you are providing here for us, Mike, is helping us to see “the setup.” You’re illuminating us how DM is trying to create “the setup” to fleece The Believers. Of course, DM is scrambling now because you and so many others are aiming the floodlights on the whole operation.
This final debacle of the Co$ is one of the most amazing entertainments to watch (from afar) of our lifetimes.
I was with you right up till “entertainment”. On one level it is just that but the damage being done on both the Zsombors of this world and the public is real and serious. My heart goes out to them, especially the crushed and oppressed Sea Org members at the sharp end.
I agree, this is more like Flavian entertainment, with the difference that we were in the arena and are now shouting from the spectator ranks, both amused and disbelieving at the madness, and trying to get the attention of the martyrs and gladiators in the hope they will wake up and realise they are trapped in an illusion and the gates are open. No need to hail the emperor any more.
I am afraid to ask but am I correct that 95 tons of GAT 2 materials have been printed up already to peddle to the unwashed masses who need a special David Miscavige photo I.D ?
My mission is a tent in the woods because I went Bankrupt after I became a Humanitarian
Diamond Meritorious . No chairs,everyone sits on a dirt floor, both of them. One question : besides GAT 2 books can be used for heat, are they edible?
M.L.
LOL! I love your sense of humor Jose!
data….data..data…data…they need lots of data !!!
“There’s no way to delay the trouble comin’ every day.” – Frank Zappa
LOL! That was inspiring and so I must add:
“The trouble ain’t that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain’t distributed right.” – Mark Twain
Misery, day in, day out. nothing but misery.
i’d rather be spinning out, stuck in some electronic incident for eternity than be part of this miserable group.
if the cure is worse than the illness, then what’s the point?
BSO? I have an MU here!
Does it stand for Bull-Shit-Officer?
yes, see my comment above for particulars!
It’s book store officer but Mike is right …..it’s book SELLING officer.
It’s like saying “I’ll marry her, but only if 50 of you come to our wedding.”
Oops…talking about confusion baby! The poor Missions, with barely a number of staff are now frantic and dispersed with these orders and, of course they will be heavily monitored by up lines so needs to be impeccable…of course DM has nothing to do with it, he does not “manage” Scientology all over, or so he argues.
And the paranoia of the ID cards…when in a history of a Church were you treated as a threat rather than a ‘welcomed member’? Now you have to be scrutinized, all your particular given to ensure (no matter how many millions you have donated) that you are “OK” with the RTC minimum standards which, for sure, are bellow compassion and friendship.
“…frantic and dispersed…”
Yes, I think that’s the idea. I think that HE is trying to introvert the orgs and missions, get them questioning themselves, scrambling around to comply, stirring up their publics, start them worrying, put them in frear, so that their attention goes onto themselves and off of HIM. I think its an attack which is being used as a defense of HIs current inability to act due to being in limbo with regard to the lawsuits in general and in particular, Team Monique.
Amazing stuff, Mike. Thank you so much. I’m shuddering at these comms but thanks to you I can laugh at it also..
“If you join this health club today….”
“What will it take for me to get you to drive out of here in a new car?”
The urgency is the giveaway of the fraud.
The grammar and syntax of these “official” emails is shameful. I would be embarrassed to be receiving such an email. I thought COB was such a perfectionist!
Or perhaps he does micro-manage all these communications, but his 10th grade education is showing…
Mike, I hope there are going to be lots of spies reporting to you from inside the tent. This is going to be one for the history books.
I wonder if everyone will get a meter check before entering the tent.
Are you critical of Scientology?
Are you critical of Scientology management?
Did someone send you?
Are you here for any other purpose than to praise Dear Leader and forward KSW?
Are you informing on this event?
Have you failed to pay when you could have?
Duh. Should’ve though of that one 😀
That should be the second to last one on the list, a shock question.
Followed by “Are you succeeding financially?”
“Have you ratted out a friend to the church to throw suspicion off yourself?”
Have you ever read Mike Rinder’s blog…and laughed?
“Security!! Take this person directly to HCO for a rollback…and the NEW, Golden Age of Tech II, publik RPF!”
“To the parishioner: “This is a new service we offer to ‘special’ public. You will feel soooo cleansed when you’re done!” (like having a fire hose shoved up your you-know-what).
“Make sure to stop at the reg and pay your $20,000 for the privilege. NEXT!!!”
You got that right, Indie 8 Million! Spot on.
“The sale ends today” “we’re practically giving it away” “you can’t afford NOT to have it”.
They need some new sec check questions.
1. How much money is in your pocket?
2. Do you know anyone who wants to work as an extra?
3. How much would you pay for John Travolta’s autograph?
“1. What is your mission’s premises square footage?”
It really, really, really, really, really (x1000) hurts to have this one as question number 1.
They don’t ask: “How many members do you have?” or “How many auditors do you have?”
Notice they want your total premises square footage. Get out there and measure the parking lot and all the grounds so we can be upstat. Oh hell might as well include the sidewalks, after all we own those too don’t we?
+1 – Exactly. Worshiping MEST.
So true.
It seems to be more important than whether they can deliver TRs and objectives.
And why don’t they know if the missions have sups and C/Ses???
Or how many people came to Sunday Service each of the past 4 weeks? What was your Bodies in the Shop each of the last 4 weeks? How many New People In over each of the last 4 weeks? How many books were sold IN THE BOOKSTORE over each of the last 4 weeks?
Wait. Those stats are already reported. And they know the answers. In virtually every case, the answer is 0,0,0,0.
In many cases the “premesis square footage” is zero, because the Mission is being run out of the Mission Holder’s garage or apartment or spare bedroom.
Here is how 95% of the “missions” are created. A rich public person with money and no time is pressured to pay $50,000 for a Mission Starter Package (books and meters). A public with time and little money is pressured to start a mission so there is a place to send the pallets of books and meters. With the above accomplished statistics are counted and book commissions are paid. Pallets of books sit in a garage, tool shed, spare room, etc never to see the day of light. No matter, it is still forever counted as a “Scientology Mission”. Miscavige holds on to his delusion that there are hundreds of Scientology Missions full of trained staff and happy public who just can’t wait for his next Golden Turd. To avoid reality he will order pallets of Golden Turd materials to be shipped to all the make believe missions around the world. Miscavige then orders others to collect the tens of thousands of dollars now owed by each “Mission holder”. Miscavige beefs up his delusion and pats himself on the back for his incredible accomplishment. The hundreds of saps who allowed themselves to be called “Missions Holders” now find themselves in deep debt with another 3 pallets of books and meters to store for eternity. If that wasn’t bad enough they have idiots from the Sea Org calling them night and day.
This is just one more example of the waste and confusion generated by Miscavige on a daily basis.
Too funny, Matt! I never thought of it before as the Golden Age of Turds! I’d keep smiling but for the pain that those still (s)trapped in the church are enduring, while they glibly await — with tissues, E-mails and compliance reports in hand and mouths agape — the next golden turd to soon be dropped by David Miscavige. BTW, I am guilty of buying into one of those regurgitated mission packages once. It was about 20 years ago…took until this year for me to finally give in and throw away the last few boxes of soggy promo (in my garage) from those pallets! OK, I’m off to my morning Solo NOTS session. I can feel a persistent F/N coming on…if it swings left and right 9 times does it still count?
David Mustravage apparently is piloting a new management tech out of desperation. “Richochet” tech was inspired by watching bodies of his staff bouncing off of walls and tables, and he further refined it by tracking the path of ball bearings in pin ball machines. His executive decisions exemplify this perfectly, though it IS hard as hell on the Church. Can someone get him thru the correct Condition before he kills anyone else?
Is that a new one Terry, “Mustravage?” SOOOooo appropriate! Love it!
Pardon me for correcting your spelling, Terry, but I believe the word you meant to spell was, “Racketeer,” wasn’t it? 😉
This word is a great look-up – exactly what MustRavage (love that one, Terry) is engaged in. Racketeer, Racketeering.
Oh. You MEANT, “Ricochet”. My bad. 😀
Mustravage. Good one.
“We don’t need this function wrapping around the necks of the execs because the function will need to be done”. Implying that execs can’t get things done. Ah, the confidence!
That struck me too! LOL
Great article Mike. It is a 3 stooges three ring circus that gets more and more funny and ridiculous each time. On the ID cards, what is to prevent one of the “unannointed ones” on the outside from sending a picture and having a fake name with the picture for their ID card? Wouldn’t it be easy to get in that way? I certainly hope you have some under the radars there for the event to secretly record it for laughs later.
And as a Seinfeld fan, I have to say, the expression is “yada yada yada.”
Oh geez…on the Bookstore Officer posting email/materials, this also means the Missions and Orgs are going to be either hounded for $thousands of dollar$ up front, to pay for the materials NOW NOW NOW, or they will be sent a bill and hounded mercilessly for weeks following. Ah…such fond memories…SO glad to be away from that insanity!
GAG II has a new posting for those handling the new phase two tech. the BSO is now referred to as the BULL SHIT OFFICER. Policy requires that he,she,it be able to receive any amount of new incoming BULL SHIT which will be loaded onto pallets and shipped from the BBSO to the MBSO.
BBSO = BRIDGE BULL SHIT OFFICER
MBSO = MISSION BULL SHIT OFFICER
Commendations will be forthcoming for MMBSHE who show consistently stellar stats in handling their shit.
MMBSHE = MAXIMUS MERITORIOUS BULL SHIT HANDLER EXTRORDINAIRE
Now, lets all get to work and give Him, the He who is the creator of all things odiferious, a truly Shit Free Event. I know it is a difficult task but remember ” No Case on Post and No Pooping allowed until He gives the All Clear.
1st email: surprised they don’t already have this data?
2nd email: must be HCO qual’ed. Attendees must be sec checked. This “arrival to” bothers me a lot. Saw it used by an American lady, too. Is this American English? I cringe each time I see it.
3rd email: so RTC does admit to having a hand in managing the church?
Gross total: Aarrgh!
Hey, hey.
Stop it with the complaints about our American English bloke.
At least we don’t add an excessive “u” to words like “harbor”, “color”, “favor” etc.
And pronounce “Z” properly instead of using that annoying “Zed”.
Anyhoo…
“(A)rrival to” is probably a dialectic variation of “arrival at” or who knows? It could be Markabian interpretation…
(A covert way of shouting out a hi to any Wild Bill Robertson fans out there 😉 )
Rather than call the “u” excessive, I’d say at least we haven’t forgotten our Norman influences, unlike the US, which from an international viewpoint appears to also be drifting in its own little bubble, utterly divorced from reality while calling it “looking reality in the face”.
I see. Maybe I misunderstood – by “arrival to”, do they mean an airport or something? I would say I arrived in London, never to or at, but that I arrived at Heathrow, never to or in. I can’t really imagine arriving to anywhere, but I do understand some uses are regional.
the US, which from an international viewpoint appears to also be drifting in its own little bubble, utterly divorced from reality
In deference to our host I’ll refrain from responding to that slap in the face the way I’d like to. This ain’t the place for that sort of firefight, friend, so kindly put a cork in it.
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that Zsombor is not a native English speaker, American or otherwise. I have never heard that usage “arrival to Clearwater” so I am with remotviewed on this one – it is clearly Marcabian. Better yet, it is LRH returned and he is testing everyone to find the Loyal Officers! That;s it!
Oh come now DM.
Seems to me that you Brits are just jealous that America’s imperial designs include your former colonies.
You shouldn’t be.
If we keep going this way which I call “Manifest Destiny on steroids” we’ll be broke and busted just like you were at the end of WW II.
I mean here we are fighting in the “Boneyard of Empires” just like you and the FSU with no exit strategy.
Seems we’ve forgotten the lessons of Viet Nam.
I wouldn’t say it is so much “divorced from reality” as it is SAS (Short Attention Span) which includes being historically challenged ( I mean there’s Davey though he was a High School drop out is still a product to a greater or lesser degree of our “education” system declaring in some RTC Bull that “suicide bombers” attacked Pearl Harbor and much of the crowd I was sitting with was in total rapture failing to notice his historical faux pas) in a Nation that bull dozes over history every two decades.
Don’t get me wrong.
I consider myself a patriot and love this country but like anywhere else it still comes with morons included.
Like Scientology it has great ideals but very few people who are intelligent enough to practice them.
“surprised they don’t already have this data?”
No, I’m not surprised. The Mission network has been neglected into shriveled atrophy for a long time. What I am surprised about is why it looks like they suddenly care.
“BSO on post”
I am surprised that there wasn’t a demand for a “single-hatted BSO” on post. The last few missions I was in, there were one or two or three staff members. If there’s going to be an impossible last-minute emergency order given, it might as well be the most impossible order conceivable.
“so RTC does admit to having a hand in managing the church”
We all know that L’il Davey’s “declaration” in the Rathbun lawsuit was a BOFFL. Big old fat freakin’ lie. What’s surprising is that EVERY SECTOR OF SCIENTOLOGY HASN’T BEEN BRIEFED to not put out contrary information until the Rathbun lawsuit is over.
And if they did put out such a briefing it would GASP! be forwarding the line that the C.O.B. RTC is being sued and is lying in his declarations to the court.
Rock, meet hard place.
Of course, if they did put out such a briefing, it’d hit Mike’s site faster than the next lie could come out of Davey’s mouth.
Q: How can you tell when David Miscavige is lying?
A: His lips are moving.
when the stats to those questions come in and staff reviews them, isn’t that going to conflict with the “most expansion ever” impression they’ve been under?
Laughter!
Yes, it is hard for Davey to keep his neck out of the nosse when he’s surrounded by idiots. It’s been one of the most puzzling aspects for me, though – how has he managed to keep out of the line of fire for so long when there isn’t a single Scientologist who doesn’t know he runs the show?
Hell, it’s always been like this. Even I know LRH never actually stopped being in command, although I never experienced the times. All you need to do is read P/Ls, check the dates to see he was managing virtually every aspect of the church. DM has simply stepped into his shoes (where he’s walked with them is a different matter). There he is, a dictator hidden in plain sight. There isn’t a major church publication that doesn’t feature his picture and words of praise and thanks.
A briefing like that would be a foot nuke par excellence.
Q: How can you tell when DM is lying?
A: He’s smiling.
I kind of feel sorry for the nooses when there are so many idiots available and in need of a bit of choking.
Where’s “John” from bridge when you need him. (John ran the book sales of the missions from Bridge in the 80’s). He was quite the character. We’d get the Advanced payments list from flag and when those people were in the missions we reg them for different book cycles. It was quite the racket but we sold a lot of mission starter packages that way. Of course most of the packages were undelivered and it became a hill 10 for our div 2 to deliver them along with bridge. There was a glitch in the policy that a person could get a refund on undelivered books back then without being declared. I’m sure that policy has been eliminated or changed.
Back in the late 60s, there was a something called MIB (Mission International Books) which came from Flag and was ordered by Hubbard. It’s intent was to get DMSMH into bookstores. Every staff member was to be taken off post to go out (throughout the five boroughs in New York City) and get orders for the PB edition, Stats, of course, instantly plunged!) The staff took an enormous number of orders. We discovered later that the books had never been printed and they were never delivered. (No excuses, that order was from Hubbard himself. He must have already gone over the edge!
Hi Chad where you at smi int in the late 80’s? Paolo
I was Paolo. I remember you well. I remember your flight on Air Italia at LAX. I’m friends with Max Lobato on Facebook. Used to be friends with Pablo but he decided to go back to hitting the Kool aid.
Chad, you mention a glitch where if the books were not delivered, the person could get his/her money back for that donation. I actually know an OT VII who did that. She was gang-pressed into donating a lot of Basics Book packages to libraries, so much so that it left her broke and unable to pay for her refreshers and she was looking at having to route off of OT VII. Well she found out about that little glitch and called the libraries where the books were supposedly sent and found that they didn’t have them and that they were still in the warehouse, and so she got her money refunded. I don’t think she got all of it, but an awful lot of it, which is a win.
My thought is that maybe now those who donated book packages can get their money refunded if they can prove they aren’t in the libraries or other places where they were supposed to be sent.
Better yet, maybe it is a possible lawsuit or class action lawsuit…We gather data that the basic books are not in the libraries that they said they were donating them to, and then use it as a means to sue, similar to what the Garcias are doing. Mike, what do you think of this idea? Is it doable?
If you can find a lawyer who will take on the Church of Scientology when it would have to be done on a contingency fee agreement (unless someone has a few hundred thousand lying around to fund the litigation) and there are no provable monetary damages apart from the cost of the books — go for it. Probably an easier task would be to find an honest politician and get them to conduct a Congressional hearing into the matter.
Sorry, this is pie in the sky.
Mike, I see whatyou’re saying. So regarding monetary damages, what damages did the Garcias have from donating for the cross for Super Power? I realize the books donations are on a much smaller scale, but to me it doesn’t seem like you have monetary damages at all in both the books case and the Garcia’s case cuz theoretically you wouldn’t have donated what you couldn’t afford to lose, right?
Garcia’s are about half a million dollars that was fraudulently gotten from them.
Thanks MIke. It makes me want Garcias to win even more and I wanted it a lot before this even.