Well, this should be interesting.
A talk, at St Hill, about what it was like training under Ron.
Do you think the “legendary” John Parselle (interesting side note — he signed me up for the Sea Org when he had been sent to Australia as a Tours Reg in 1973, he was never a posted auditor again) will mention the elephant in the room? The “training under Ron” that John participated in was perhaps the Briefing Course and definitely the Class VIII course on board the Apollo. NEITHER OF THESE COURSES ARE AVAILABLE IN SCIENTOLOGY TODAY. The two auditor courses that Hubbard declared were the most important of all.
This is the “COB” finally making scientology the “way Ron intended it.”
It always makes me laugh to hear and read what people say about David Miscavige being so “On-Source.” Hubbard would absolutely lose his mind if he ever shows up to finish his SO Contract and looks over the scientology world today:
- Which is driven by “donations” rather than service sales
- Has purchased large, empty org buildings out in the boonies
- Does not deliver the Briefing Course, Class VIII Course, Key to Life or Life Orientation Courses
- There are no OEC or Tech Volumes available, nor a scientology dictionary
- CMO International, the Watchdog Committee and International Executive Strata have been completely disbanded
But thanks to COB, the commas are all in the right places in the basic books, and lectures are available on CD (except the Briefing Course lectures).
What a sick joke this is. It’s proof that if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes truth. Miscavige has announced that he is “doing what Ron intended” so many times it has become truth in the softened minds of scientologists everywhere. Those who know better have long since departed…
The SHSBC Was the most importent course next to the Clas VII that is why is is gone now.
I have the orginal checksheet and MP3’s of ALL 648 tapes, not the cut down version people did with 425 tapes in the 80’s.
I also filched the CLas VIII checksheet and tapes before I legged it out Ha Ha!
So that Fucking Dwarf can drop dead LOL.
No comments required from the ********; in here.
The owner of the web domain keytolife.org is listed as “ns1.scientology.org: 198.95.10.17”, but for some reason they leave that website completely blank.
There isn’t so much as a brief explanation when the Key To Life course will become available again.
I think a lot of the many changes under the reign of error (or terror?) of Supreme Ruler and fleet admiral David “Ecclesiastical Beatings” Miscavige are worth examining for a variety of audiences (publics in Scientology terms) and motivations.
I recall being recruited for the KTL/LOC Evolution to ITO in LA and being told that the world out of comm evaluation determined that the literacy level of people had dropped (thanks to psychs) so people were routinely passing “misunderstood words” in their everyday communication.
So, of course KTL and LOC were allegedly created by Ronald Hubbard to solve the problem. Of course I heard both were actually not created by Hubbard, but he plagiarized hundreds of ideas in Dianetics and Scientology, many from the occult and hypnosis as described by Jon Atack and several others in superb articles that are available for free online. Operation Clambake has several and Arnie Lerma published many as well.
But my point is we were told that Scientology had not failed, society had been declining so rapidly that humanity had become blind and guided by hypnotic hallucinations and implants from psychs.
Hubbard made it seem miraculous that human beings could walk down the street and not get hit by cars and feats like driving cars and riding motorcycles seemed far beyond the ability of people, but somehow they succeed at doing them every day, despite being out of present time, hypnotised and acting out incidents from billions and trillions of years ago on long dead civilizations.
So, he claimed to dig so deep he could get us to wake up and communicate with each other and actually understand the communication.
Then KTL and LOC eventually bombed and fell out of favor and I was told that David Miscavige declared them squirrel and removed them.
I am curious about who actually created them and how and why David Miscavige removed them.
Did anyone who completed those programs get false data stripping?
And if they are squirrel is the excuse why Dianetics and Scientology have failed also no longer valid? They acknowledged that Dianetics and Scientology have failed and gave a reason and solution.
Now that the solution is gone is the acknowledgement of failure also gone?
So many questions!
Hey there Mockingbird.
I know a lot about this as I (along with Ronnie and Bitty Miscavige and Barbara Saecker) were the original guinea pigs for KTL. The course was compiled by David Phillips and Sue Koon at Int — working directly with Hubbard. He told them what to do and they then put it together and sent it to him and he would send them back detailed notes and direction. WHen they had it basically completed, the 4 of us were put through the course under their supervision (nobody who had not done KTL was allowed to supervise or administer it) and adjustments were made based on our feedback and things we had difficulty with. It was THE most important thing happening at Gold and was the highest priority for Hubbard at the time as this was finally going to be the breakthrough that would make everything fall into place.
The World Out of Comm eval by Hubbard explained all his reasoning for the decline of society just as you describe, and the solution to it all was KTL. It was considered to be a VITAL component of planetary clearing — hell, Miscavige even hired VERY expensive Disney animators to make those huge, wildly expensive KTL manuals. Until he decided it was no longer on Source and it disappeared from the scientology world…
Thanks, this supports several explanations that I heard years ago. Do you know who created LOC by any chance?
I remember the illustrations in the KTL materials seemed to be far higher in quality than most Scientology materials, now I have an answer as to why.
I wonder what David Miscavige now says regarding KTL and LOC and the world out of comm eval?
To some people these are trivial details, but I have found that for ex Scientologists you never know which particular historical or technical details are required for the recovery of a particular individual.
I have written well over six hundred posts on Scientology and I have been surprised many times by people who have been freed from the influence of Hubbard and sometimes they remark that a point or remark about the techniques in Scientology or the history of Hubbard or the organization that wasn’t especially revelatory to me is the key to the moment they broke Hubbard’s spell and they realized that they were fooled, an essential part of recovery for many ex cult members.
So, my point is that while witnesses to the true history of Scientology’s development are available, we should collect their accounts of what actually happened. You never know which details are gonna be useful in the future.
Hubbard had the psychs, Trump’s got the deep state. You can always blame some generalized target when you’re not being effective.
Sad but true.
In countries with a totalitarian regime, you must always have the leader’s photo hanging in your home. In scn, you must always thank the leader without exception for what he has done for you. It is practically the same pattern of control.
So the dwarfenpope took a venal and broken scam, made it more corrupt, broken and abusive and then claims it is purer than the driven snow.
But there’s enough sheep out there that will continue to refuse to “see the light” and will follow along.
Phillip: “continue to refuse to “see the light” – which light? I have studied the SHSBC paid for it, and are now declared… and if you have studied the SHSBC you know something… you know something about LRH… not necessarily about your case… why? You learn simply how and why Scientology did build up as a GPM… it means, the goal ist to become an OT (which is with the NEW OT levels impossible)… means fighting Xenu… and an LRH goal … an LRH goal… and you give your money for it… which gives the problem… So you have the goal to become an OT and the problem to pay for it… it is certainly a veriable GPM… unfortunatele whether the way nor the solutions will solve that… finally, the Bridge will never create an OT… OT is given Intention, and that was it also for LRH… Okay? But Intensions will be always difficult…
Regarding the OP here, I seem to vaguely recall a reference by Hubbard from my time in Scientology, probably something I read in the nineties, in which Hubbard emphasized the importance of people doing the BC and class VIII course and described anyone who stopped the delivery of these courses as an SP. I wish I could still remember the references verbatim like I did back when I was in Scientology.
Yes he did say that. And he also said that when an SP attacks an org it always attacks the tech and delivery division first (the auditing division and the making of auditors). Well that is what happened. Davey, the SP, erased the Class VI Course (The Briefing Course) and he erased the Class VIII Course. And ne never said he intended to reissue the courses at a later date.
Thanks.
I have been out of Scientology for ten years and as I have said many times read over fifty books on psychology, cognitive dissonance theory, rhetoric, propaganda, cults, the true history of Scientology and other cults and related subjects and at first I was reading and writing about Scientology for sixty hours a week, then over time, maybe a year or two, I was writing about Scientology for forty hours a week then over a few more years I went down to just twenty hours a week and over the last few years I have been writing about Scientology on and off .
Now, I sometimes go for weeks or even months without writing about Scientology.
A side effect is that the ability I used to have to recall several hundred references verbatim or nearly verbatim has faded.
I think it’s a good thing.
So, now I have to look up or ask for help finding references. And very often if you don’t know the title of a reference you are going to have a very hard time finding anything from a taped lecture or policy letter or bulletin.
Ten years out. That is how long I’ve been out. It went fast. Seems like yesterday. But alas, I thought the church would have died long before this. And it hasn’t. Having all those whales infusing Davey with money has helped them still be here 10 years later. But if you look at people, they are all but dead as the orgs are empty.
I think coming out is often very extremely humbling. For probably most if us in Scientology for decades (I was in from 1989- 2914, 25 years) we were encouraged to believe we were more enlightened, aware and definitely important than, well everyone else, and the process of coming out hopefully includes a realization of the pride and narcissism, frankly deluded narcissism, that Scientology encouraged.
The journey from believing as one Sea Org poster claims that “for every one of us making it go right there are a million people who don’t even know what’s right” to the shattering realization that Scientology is a harmful fraud and Scientology founder Ronald Hubbard was the most prolific liar probably in history and a plagiarist who intended to use covert hypnosis and undue influence to mentally enslave mankind is a long and hard journey.
To add insult to injury after leaving Scientology it is extremely likely that one has to see that not only are they not a savior of humanity, but it’s extremely unlikely that they are capable of stopping Scientology and Dianetics from harming people.
The godlike power we were sold as the most generous of empty promises is a far cry from the very limited and very human levels of ability we actually wake up to someday if we are able to throw off Hubbard’s web of lies.
We are in my opinion very fortunate if we are able to escape Hubbard’s hold on our minds, not everyone is that lucky.
This is one of their very few offerings that might be interesting. I will not be attending.
I never met John Parselle. Charles Parselle (who I guess is his brother) I did see a couple of times when he was in charge of the Legal Bureau in the Guardian’s Office. Charles came across as a very competent, capable and affable fellow, but he was only one level down from Jane Kember and must have had blood on his hands.
Completely agree that DM has FUBAR’d everything he ever touched.
heal, Mike.
Mike do you have any theory on why he discontinued the briefing course? Just curious
You’ve probably covered it somewhere before but I don’t recall.
Because only HE can make decisions about what is on source and he is so busy he just hasn’t had the time to get to this. He knows the current course is “off Source” and therefore the public must be protected from it (never mind it is really just 400+ lectures by Hubbard – the original students didn’t have s check sheet, they weee being taught by Source himself).
He is going to have to review every lecture and put together a checksheet. Buying buildings and yanking ribbons is far more important. And doing events. And hobnobbing with Tom.
Thanks Mike very interesting. I suppose the same applies to the OEC? My involvement was pretty limited compared to others that comments here but even I remember those.
…and drinking quarts and quarts of top barrel whisky no doubt plays a large role.
Thanks for the info, Mike. I find it highly ironic that Davey, the COB head Pooh Bah of all in Scn is the one to decide whether something is in-tech or out-tech. This, from a kid who was kicked off his Class IV internship for yelling at his pc? This, from a guy who never trained after that and who avoids receiving auditing like it’s the plague. What a hypocrdite.