A new update from inside the bubble from a Special Correspondent.
Tours
Tours started right away after the ribbon was cut. Tours started every 10 minutes in groups of 75. It was very hot outside under the sun and many people just left instead of waiting around for a tour.
It took many Cornerstone members at least an hour to start the tour, and they had priority. Each tour lasted 2 hours. Needless to say, this did not work well for most people.
“There were four news helicopters circling”
None of the public on the ground knew anything was amiss. They though the media was just really interested in covering the opening. No one seemed to think it was odd the ribbon cutting lasted only 5 minutes. Even Ideal Org openings routinely last 45 minutes.
Comments were “He’s already said so much the last 2 days”. “It was really hot outside, so 5 minutes was perfect”.
Building
Basement is the crew galley.
1st floor is everything Div 6. A/V displays. WISE / ABLE, Sea Org Museum, the big statues of SCN precepts, etc. (No Div 6 course rooms of course, since FLAG is not a Div 6 org)
2nd floor is HCO, Div 2, Course rooms
3rd floor is HGC
4th floor is Cause Resurgence
5th floor is Super Power (the order of 3 / 4 / 5 might be off)
6th floor is – no idea
7th floor is – no idea
Cause Resurgence Rundown
This is being billed as “Thetan Objective Processing”. The briefings on this rundown made NO MENTIONS of “running”.
NO ONE WAS ALLOWED TO TOUR THIS FLOOR. God forbid people wondered what the running track is for.
This rundown is being promoted as something that can be done over and over with increasing amount of gain the higher you are on the Bridge.
The cost for this rundown is $2,500. COB literally compared its use to that of a Touch Assist.
This is supposed to be an integral part of what will change the entire universe? Running around a track for $2,500?
Description of Cause Resurgence from the promo booklet:
“An entire floor of the flag building is devoted to the Cause Resurgence Rundown. It is an OT action that is not limited to OTs. Moreover it can be done many times and at many points on the Bridge with enormously greater gains available the higher one’s level of case. The building was designed to incorporate every aspect of the Cause Resurgence Rundown from all support and admin spaces to the central delivery area itself.”
Sounds wonderful. But NO PICTURES of this space in the booklet and NO ONE allowed to tour the floor? What’s up with that?
Auditing Rooms
The auditor’s cert is on one wall, on the opposite wall hangs an Auditor’s Code with a name plate under the Auditor’s Code. The camera is hidden in the name plate under the Auditor’s Code.
Restaurants
There is one or two cafe’s in the SP building, but no restaurant.
Guests
My sources did not see any other celebs than those mentioned by the TBT. Did not see Jenna Elfman, Nancy Cartwright, Danny Masterson, Laura Prepon, Juliette Lewis, etc.
Kelly Preston and Kirstie Alley have been at graduations for the last several weeks. Supposedly they are getting close to finishing OT 7.
What is missing?
There is absolutely no space in the SP building to hold graduation or an event. There are plans to build an LRH Event Hall. But how do you open the biggest building ever in SCN and have NO PLACE to hold a graduation or event?
Student Hat
The Student Hat is now $4,000. A huge price increase. Here’s why…
The Student Hat has been ENORMOUSLY LENGTHENED, by requiring every person doing the course, to M4 wordclear THE ENTIRE COURSE (lectures and pack) and to DO THE STUDENT HAT TWICE THROUGH!
This is really mind-blowing. Consider that the whole “platform” of these new releases is making sure HCO PL INSTRUCTION AND EXAMINATION, RAISING THE STANDARD OF is applied in full, and that no time is spent at lower levels learning skills that are not needed until later levels.
LRH ED 174 was a special handling LRH wrote for CERTAIN PEOPLE to debug study, which required a person to do the Student Hat once through, then M4 the lectures, then do the Student Hat again. This program has been used on prior training evolutions for tech staff.
So now that the speed of auditor training has allegedly been sped up by shortening the materials, what does COB do? Extend the length of the Student Hat by perhaps 3X!!
Imagine the logistics of having to M4 every single Student Hat student on the entire course. Imagine how many people with F/N problems, TA problems, Metab Problems are going to be bogged down. How many people will need Word Clearing Correction Lists, be found to be Out-Int or Out-Lists and routed to Qual for expensive Review auditing, which they can’t pay for, and then are parked off-lines.
How many word clearers would be needed to pull off this feat? And for what purpose?
I have NEVER heard any complaints about the Student Hat since 1996. And yet COB picks this one action — which EVERYONE has to do — and extends the length / time on the check sheet by 3X.
The rationale was something like this…
“The HCOBs about study all come from the Study Tapes. So it didn’t make sense to have students study the HCOBs first, and then study the tapes when the tapes are the source of the HCOBs. So students listen to the tapes first now. But that means the tapes are listened to without first having the benefit of understanding Study Tech. So students listen to the tapes first, then read the HCOBs, then M4 everything, then study it all again.
I guess LRH never figured that one out during the 20 to 30 years he was successfully training auditors.
The public don’t see the contradiction. COB says on the Pro Metering course, the course sup is the one who now determines what the correct can-size is for every student on the can squeezes because “that’s not what the Pro Metering Course if for…”, and that makes sense to people as being a correct gradient, but on the other hand everyone needs to do the Student Hat twice before being allowed to study anything further in SCN…and no one spots this as an outpoint.
Auditing Rates
Word is that all Flag intensives are $5,000, no package rates available. If true, this is a price reduction on OT auditing and a price increases on Lower Level auditing.
This little note doesn’t follow the above article except to show how others are recognizing His Psychoness’s….psychoness. I’ve GOT to share it.
While I work I sometimes have the TV on in the background for a little noise. All of a sudden I thought I heard “…mumble mumble…back to Miscavige.” What? This is in the middle of the afternoon. So I paid attention. It was General Hospital. I put the closed captioning on to see if it was even spelled correctly. It was! This is too much….Turns out a young man had his mother put away and she came to visit him and he tells her he’s sending her right back to the looney-bin, Miscavige Institute. Right at that moment the doorbell rings and two guys in white coats come to take her away.
Pretty spot on for a TV soap. Soaps do nothing for me except for today–delightful.
“Yet, that was the beginning, not the end. One after another, groundbreaking Earth-shattering revelations washed over us like waves. This wasn’t an “event”—it was an auditing session! We were blowing charge. The string of correct indications just kept blowing away false data and introversion that had accumulated over several decades.”
Several decades of false data and introversion, eh?
Who’s been in charge during all of those decades?
More to the point, who was in charge before that?
Are you, like COB, saying that LRH got it wrong? You’re actually telling me that Source got it wrong….and you accept this blind, suppressive and invalidative assertion as if it was plain as day and really, no big deal!
Who’s the actual “Hider of (purportedly) Lost Tech?”, the Puppeteer pulling the strings on those Hidden Data lines?
Glad to hear that finally, after all of this time, the Squirrels Nest at AVC has finally been cleared out (pun intended.)
Yeah, right.
If I was still ‘in’, I’d be thinking that COB and RTC had finally given prima facie evidence of it’s own complete and utter non-existence for the last 31 years.
Seen Jurassic Park?
“Run!”
Did this guy Hanses have sex inside the tent?
A little bit off topic here, but each time I see it referred to as the SP building, I immediately think of a Suppresive Persons building.
Anyone else think the same thing? Or am I alone in thinking that?
Pay no attention to the logical phallacy (sic) behind the curtain!
Ex Staff, Re: down deep DM knows this
Miscavige’s terror of LRH is what drives him to ‘look good.’ Defuse the terror and you might defuse him.
Re: all those M4s……. do you need to get a “3 swing” on every page and every word cleared? Oh my. Let the fun begin.
Cause Resurgence Rundown:
GET THE FUCK OUT – RUN!!!!
This, from the the very deepest end of the the koolade tank:
Be prepared to GAG – again.
From: Gary Knutson & Jeniffer LeBaron [mailto:silvrlining@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:09 PM
To: Gary Knutson & Jeniffer LeBaron
Subject: FW: MUST READ REGARDING THE GOLDEN AGE OF TECH PHASE II of THE EVENT
If anyone you know has any doubts or excuse (like “we don’t have enough money” or ________) for not making it to the Saturday “event” at the Shrine, then please pass this on right away, because it will be insane to miss this. It’s more like a third dynamic auditing session than an “event.”
MUST READ REGARDING THE GOLDEN AGE OF TECH PHASE II of THE “EVENT” and WHY it would be insane to miss it (this Saturday, 23 Nov 13 at the Shrine, starting at noon — you must be confirmed to get in).
Dear Scientologist,
I am at a loss. I feel like it’s probably hopeless to even try to explain.
I’m so blown away that I struggle to find the right words. I’ve nearly given up even trying to convey the emotion of the event. It was too powerful…too personal.
I may let you down on this one. It will sound like a hollow sales pitch or strained hyperbole. How do you explain the emotion of triumph? How do you explain the nuances of hope? How do you convey the intimate details of your own personal sense of love, honor or inspiration?
Can you explain your feelings when you got married? Or when your first child was born? Can you honestly describe the thrill of personal victory when you graduated?
I can no more describe a summer sunset or the smile of your baby than I could the emotion of today. These can’t be conveyed. They can only be experienced. When you can look in the eyes of someone who has gone through it, you know: THEY understand. They’re the only ones who can.
Yet, I will try. In an attempt to ensure that every last soul who I can possibly reach does see these events, I will try. And so…I write.
As we filed into our seats in the huge white tent, I looked up at the rows and rows of lights and scaffolding across the top that seemed to go on forever. The magnitude alone made me realize how many of us there really are.
They just kept streaming in wearing tuxedos and formal gowns. You could hardly believe that people would keep arriving, but they did. And once again the 6,000-seat tent filled to capacity. I don’t know if there were other viewing areas to accommodate more people; I just know that this tent was PACKED.
The lights dimmed three times signifying the event was about to start and a cheer went up amongst the crowd. You could tell people were excited. After last night’s event, how could they be anything but? They had just seen a watershed moment in history—something they never expected to see. Yet here there was another entire event tonight! Talk about anticipation…. And then COB RTC took the stage and the event picked up right where it left off from the previous night.
Within the first 15 minutes I was crying.
Literally crying this time, I hate to say it—not just moist eyes. It’s funny that I worked so hard to hide it at the time, as I stood there cheering myself hoarse, yet I freely confess it now. I’m not a crying person. I’m not a softie. Yet, there I was…crying.
But the truth was, I was actually blowing charge. I was NOT. STUPID. Goddammit! I was NOT just dumb. It wasn’t ME! Oh my GOD, I can make it. Oh my GOD!
One of the first videos had just unveiled a new release that was very personal to me: Something I had struggled with; something that had given me a very hard time. And yet here it was—mystery dispelled, totally solved, totally beautiful.
I turned to look at my wife. Her mascara was running. Tears were streaming down her face. It is hard to describe the truly spiritual moment when you look over at your partner in life and get that she is having the exact same experience you are…and that all our plans are about to change forever.
We were going to make it—us.
Yet, that was the beginning, not the end. One after another, groundbreaking Earth-shattering revelations washed over us like waves. This wasn’t an “event”—it was an auditing session! We were blowing charge. The string of correct indications just kept blowing away false data and introversion that had accumulated over several decades.
Calm knowingness and understanding set in. No wonder these trainees could get through so fast! I probably could too! We all could. It wasn’t a stretch. It made total sense. How could it be any other way? Totally logical. A peaceful happiness settled in.
Forty-five minutes later I was out of my mind.
This time I was literally screaming. Not “cheering,” but totally-shocked-lost-my- composure-blown-away SCREAMING in awe. I couldn’t imagine anything this lifetime that would ever make me react like that. But then again, I couldn’t imagine what I was seeing.
The event had gone in a totally different direction than I had ever expected it would. I had been happily following along, elated that I was now going to be able to make it, happy that my org was going to fulfill its mission and excited about how fun my job was going to be…and then I really got the true whole track nature of Scientology.
Guys, we are in the right religion. For a moment I caught a glimpse at how big this whole thing really is and I realized that this really is the most important thing on my whole track.
The crowd went nuts. I mean crazy. I mean psycho. It was off the chain! People were screaming. They were cheering. The floor started to rumble from thousands of people stomping their feet.
None of us expected to see what was being released, not even my Senior C/S—and he had been in all the closed-door briefings beforehand. This one thing made everything else possible. It was thrilling. Beyond surreal, it was one of those few times in my life where you really couldn’t believe your eyes. If you had told me it existed I wouldn’t have believed you, but now that it was here in front of me…well, I scarcely believed it still. And yet there it was.
You won’t believe it. I still hardly can fathom it. Soon, however, it will be real enough.
It’s a new Scientology, guys. Ron’s Scientology. The Scientology you always hoped for and wanted. It’s here. And it’s ours. The finale of the event was really what drove this home to me. The final video was almost like watching a dream. It was everything I’d ever hoped we could be—better than that, actually. And that’s where I lose my words.
I just can’t explain it. I would have to describe each part of it and it’s too much, too powerful and too huge. I can just tell you this: the crowd gave a standing ovation for 10 minutes.
I’m not kidding. For 10 full minutes we cheered. People stood on their chairs. They were stomping the floor. We clapped and screamed and whistled until our hands hurt.
COB graciously acknowledged the crowd and they would start to wind down. And then it would start going again. Just as people were finally seated, the cheer would start up—and then, once again they were on their feet. Over and over.
It. Was. Epic.
I just want to say one thing before I go. I have been hearing about “the release of Super Power” since I was a little boy. There had been decades of talk about this day that would arrive at some point in the future. It had been built up into this monumental victory where we would solve everything, where the future would be blindingly bright and where planetary clearing would finally be within our reach.
I wasn’t disappointed.
With Love,
Matt Hanses,
ED, St. Louis Org Foundation
Uhm…….Matt? ……..you were out of your mind allright. But not to worry…… you have company./
Ugh, I had to read Matt Hanses again. Mike posted him earlier on and it was hard to gag through it than too!
“…because it will be insane to miss this. It’s more like a third dynamic auditing session than an “event.” ”
Sounds more like an implant station set up.
” I was NOT. STUPID. Goddammit! I was NOT just dumb. It wasn’t ME!”
I have some news for you Matt.
Surreal. This guy does sound under the influence of something. Hypnotic suggestion? These comms are just so wierd. Dm is using this “it’s not your fault”, “you’re not stupid”, “someone else did it”, thing to implant some indication relieving people of their responsibility for their own condition. Yet another way of putting people at effect. I guess dm’s dog ate OT 9 &10.
“It’s a new Scientology, guys. Ron’s Scientology. The Scientology you always hoped for and wanted. It’s here. And it’s ours.”
This was the situation when I came in, in 1972. In fact, Hubbard was right there in New York, and C/Sed my Integrity Rundown! It was new release and I was the demo product for the Org.
The Org was truly a great place to be. I started in Scientology two weeks after I turned 16, and the prices were so reasonable, I was able to pay my way through clear by the time I was 21. Everyone got along. There was no heavy ethics, in fact, the “ethics officer” lived in another state and only came in on request, which was about three times in that five years. Everyone was happy, plenty of co auditing going on. The Org was packed, literally. Lots of people on HQS, the Dianetics Course and the comm course. There were also two missions. Three huge groups in that 21 mile city. All of the people in there were very cool, happy too. There wasn’t any animosity towards Scientology then down on the streets or out in the media. Never ran into a bad attitude about it. Anyone could walk in the front door. Students on internships were bringing in new people every night to audit them to get through their internships. If they were on a grade 4 internship they would just bring in that new person and start him up on grade 4 to get through the internship. Those people stayed, that got practiced on. They loved the auditing. There was just one big CAN HAVE Scientology . Everyone was all too willing to help everyone else. Nobody was ARCxen, because back then if someone did have an ARCX it was handled instantly and put right. An ARCX auditor was out the door to fix it.
I really feel bad for the people that never got to experience what a good thing, could be created with this. Now what I handle in my auditing is survivor’s guilt. When you have a panoramic view over such a long period of time, it is not difficult to see what changed and what this movement has morphed in to. And the people that have come in in the last 30 years, they just have the before and after view. If they did, this could be fixed actually. Not even David Miscavige knows. He has never been down on the streets with the Scientology. Or in a loving group where people really care about the people in front of them as friends and family only.
So, when I read this sentence above by the E.D. of an Org in St. Louis, who admittedly heard about the release of super power since he was a little boy, and only last week got the idea that Scientology one hoped for just arrived, it is surreal. I felt that way at 16, as someone on HQS. We all thought it was ours then. There were not any can’t haves being run on people. If you can imagine that.
No must haves either.
Just curious. WHat month in 1972 are you saying Hubbard was C/Sing your Integrity Processing? And why do you think he was doing so? I am pretty familiar with his trip to NY and I have not heard of this before.
I started HQS in November of 1972. The Integrity processing I got in 1973, I can’t recall what month it was, but it was when the Integrity processing was released and run for the first time in an Org. There were some Sea Org officers in the Org running “the launch”, and, I guess they picked the most fucked up person in the place to launch it on. That was me at the time. Anyway, I went through three days of this rundown confessing to everything but bored out of my mind. “Have you ever…” “Sure.” It was going that way.
So then I was told my folders were leaving the Org. So I would be on a break for a day. They come back and I get an rfactor from the auditor we are starting something new from the C/S. So then he starts running responsibility processing on me. So, then the TA starts flying. And I hit the ground and land on my feet. Also told the C/S was from Ron.
Then someone in the G.O. recruits me for package carrying, running this mail package out on the subway late at night, because, since I was such a nobody loose cannon looking 16 year old, nobody would possibly be interested in following me with these packages out to this outer borough. So, it turned out later it was to where Hubbard was staying. Anyway, I hated the subway ride as it was a few hours late at night and I didn’t like it that nobody was telling me what I was carrying or why. So I quit after the second ride. Said I needed to get out and start living responsibly. It wasn’t responsible of me to be a mule. Especially when I was kept in the dark about what I was doing. I had just finished the Integrity processing and the responsibility processing, so what could they say?
Were you one of the Sea Org staff in the Org?
I have to say, once everyone in the Org saw how well I cleaned up, everybody wanted Integrity Processing.
Interesting. Thanks. Yes, the C/S was “from Ron” by reason of someone taking what he had said to do and doing it. I don’t believe LRH was C/Sing folders when in NY. No, I was not in the org.
Anyway, that was a “product launch” in my time. Hubbard just sent a tech team in hat people and get it going. No stages, no streamers, no teleprompters. Just, here it is, you can have it.
Well, from what I understood, it was becoming quite a flap as the crowds of people waiting outside the auditing room and by the examiner heard me complaining about how boring this new rundown was. There were three missionaires waiting outside the auditing room that escorted me to the examiner. Then crowds of people waiting to hear my review. “I’m bored out of mind”. “This is it?” I mean yes, you could say these things back then and people were not offended, only more curious. So I can see how perhaps he might have gotten involved directly on that cycle. Even if he wasn’t C/Sing on any others. Anyway, everyone in the Org thought he had debugged the cycle. I guessed he realized, or someone realized on that launch, there was a new low you had to go to on a P.C.. You couldn’t just run this on someone and have them get case gain if they didn’t see how they had anything to do with what was being run, or couldn’t take on any responsibility. That was a real game changer for me. I always thought it would be a good action if every time someone wrote a K.R., at the bottom they would include what responsibility they could take for the person’s actions they were writing the K.R. on. To kind of blow the charge for them self. In all the sec checks I got after Integrity Processing, I was never asked about responsibility. I mean, I was taking responsibility, but was everyone else? Does anyone get responsibility processing anymore? Or get directed to their own responsibility in matters of conflict? From the current feed back in the Scientology nation, it seems like something that may been dropped out. I am curious about this now.
I want what he’s drinking. As long it is not Kool-Aide…
“Guys, we are in the right religion.”
Who says shit like this? I didn’t realize religion, belief or faith is something you pick and choose like a fast-food drive-thru.
I hope the email – at least what he said within it – is genuine. But even if it is, it’s scary. I have no clue how anyone can “blow charge” when listening to DM ramble on like the uneducated thug that he is.
I. JUST. CANNOT. COMPREHEND.
I find it very interesting that the Student Hat is now 2 times through.
Did you ever look up the words: „Thread“ and „Handles“ you see on the Microsoft Windows Task Manager? You can look it up 10 times and have no „full conceptual understanding“. Why? Only Bill Gates and his team exactly know all. Those who designed the Windows Oparating System. They know exactly how this system works and the code behind it. All others like me have a less good insight. But the clou here is, if you read a book that talks about how to study and mentions those words in a chapter you do not need to understand those words „fully conceptual“. You need only to konw it well enough to understand the idea of that chapter. If you look up that word and decide to learn Windows programming to better understand those words this will be no guarantee that you grasp the concept of this chapter. This is by my opinion the clou of the tapes and the clou of the Student Hat. Those that did the Student Hat and after that are very very carefull to fully understand every word they read or listen to did not grasp the Student Hat.
As many inside did not grasp this they insist on „words“ and „procedure“ and „not think“. Those are then prone to manipulation. Word = Order=Action or protest and 180 degree action. Within Scientology there is a trap. If you do not follow the exact path you are trapped. But the exact path is not the books and tapes. The exact path is the line that is left and right flanked by this books and tapes. This in itself is a protective mechanism. If someone uses Scientology for evil purposes will wind up in a trap. This is not by accident but by design.
Having done the Student Hat to I can atest to it’s rigor BUT 2 times through!! If that isn’t stopping auditors being made I don’t know what is?!
Great, a student learning how to use a meter doesn’t need to know about can size. Yeah that makes lots of sense.
The first inkling I had about 3 swing F/N was at Flag where the Auditor ( MAA)
Head swung back and forth watching the needle as if she was watching the ball in a tennis match on the meter.
I was at the Flag examiner’s after session and was getting frustrated that the examiner didn’t call the F/N. Finally she called it and then said to me, “Don’t worry; it takes longer at the examiners now that they changed the definition of an F/N.” Actually said that.
With the redefinition of a floating needle to be 3 sweeps, 3 times longer is generous. There is a whole generation of Scientologists that are learning to recall pleasure moments instead of focusing on the materials or question at hand to get past meter checks. Sad really.
Thetapotata,
These may be the ONLY pleasure moments you’ll get.
The good thing is these pleasure moments are impossible to erase…..
Greta
Remember “ridge on the bridge.” In other words, someone arrives and says, “I would like auditing.” The wrong answer is, “do a course,” which creates a “ridge on the bridge.” Now we have:
ASHO: “I want the briefing course.” No, you must do a couple years of Basics and Student Hat at $10,000, and buy two metrs at $10,000…”ah, no thank you”. ASHO must be in total shock.
New Public: I would like some auditing. They find it is too expensive and then are told to start the co-audit route. “Let’s start with the Basics and Student Hat. In about two years you can start to co-audit.”…”ah, no thank you”
Public who have hung around: same thing. There are no routes on the bridge, except for already implanted kool-aid drinkers. Auditing or co-auditing route barred, except to the wealthy, and the training route is barred by a monstrous runway.
Of course, DM sees all of this as acceptable as he is God.
You are so right. If Hubbard were to return today, he’d hang Miscavige by the nuts. I think down deep DM knows this.
Nuts? If he has any….
He buries them. 🙂
Yep, a search of the grounds at Hemet would turn up a lot of ’em!!!!
“I don’t care if I pass your test, I don’t care if I follow your rules. If you can cheat, so can I. I won’t let you beat me unfairly – I’ll beat you unfairly first.
– Ender ”
― Orson Scott Card, Ender’s Game
Does anyone know if they “handled” the three swing f/n thing as part of GAT2? I have heard from time to time that they were going to remedy it. Just curious.
What I find funny is that it takes them, what? thirteen years to make ANY changes to the GAT1 screw ups. Also this is like admitting that GAT 1 was bullshit. They released the pro metering course (new and improved) (supposedly) back then didn’t they? How could anyone trust what they do now?
Regarding Student Hat…Yes Mike, this “twice thru with Method 4” is from LRH ED 174, and addressed slow, glib or blown students as well as supervisors that were off the rails. It ALSO has, “Require Word Clear 1 as a prerequisite of any and all Course study on students.”
Are they doing that? Not that I have heard.
Additionally, it states to do these student hat actions “before the student begins to study any other materials on any course.” YET…on DM’s lineup this comes AFTER one is expected to get thru the basic books, including Dianetics and Science of Survival?!
DM is totally taking this twice thru, M4 business out of context of the LRH ED, picking out what he wants and ignoring the rest. And then charging $4000! It is a sure guarantee that no one will ever see and academy level check sheet, ever.
Yes, this blows my mind too, that the Student Hat course will come AFTER the Basics – the Basics, with all that whole-track stuff, with the PDCs. Talk about out-gradient.
I did my Student Hat in the 80’s and don’t recall having to do it 2x through. I also did the Study Certainty during GAG 1. Did NOT enjoy the second round at all.
Some more data from inside the bubble that I heard:
There is no TRs and Objectives course anymore, it’s now the Survival Rundown. The Objectives remain a step on the Bridge, but are contained within the SR.
M1 has been moved off to the side and is now optional. Not sure what this does to fast flow status.
The Academy Levels have all been “shortened” by removing 90% of the lectures. There is only 1 binder of lectures for all 5 courses, instead of 1-2 binders per level.
You will indeed be required to purchase TWO of the new e-meters, and I heard that you won’t be allowed to use older e-meters on course. Not sure the validity of that one.
From several sources in CW, there were 14k ID badges requested and between 6-8k people at the events of Friday and Saturday nights, but as pictures clearly show, far fewer Sunday for the ribbon cutting. I was told the tent was standing room only, and there were full houses at several of the other buildings watching via video feed.
If you were mid-training on your Academy Levels and they were not GAG 2, you will have to re-train from the Student Hat. Not sure what will be required of already certed auditors.
Never been a scientologist however I find this whole subject absolutely fascinating. DM has some ort of personality disorder. But how does he get away with it? And is a prerequisite to being a scientologist gullibility. Does any other religion fleece its flock so readily. Come on guys you don’t really believe this nonsense do You? No seriously do You? And you want to pay again. Ha Ha
See this Success Story from Auditor WW #87, ca. May ’73:
David Miscavige, Fast Flow Student. Willingboro, New Jersey.
“I did the Primary Rundown in November of 1972. Since then I’ve done the HSDC and Internship and the Academy Levels 0-IV. While doing these, there was a big change in my study. I was able to study 100% faster and understand the data 100% better. While on the Dianetic Internship I really saw that I could APPLY the data EASILY.
Now while on the 0-IV Internship I also see that the data is easily applied and really works. Also it is a big win for me as I can see age makes no difference in study as I am only 12 years old”.
Let me asked this question: IF (!) he felt it worked on him, why all these “new ideas” and changes?
Nice to know he always talked like that.
I did the student hat once in the early 1970’s and it worked fine for me.
Went Clear on Standard Dianetic’s , life got much better.
It was not a big deal like I was paroled off of death row or escaped from
a psych hospital therefore needing many times through and 1,000’s of hours of auditing..
Point is that it seems that this is the case now that the entire Bridge is engineered for
impossible cases . Not realistic and the prices are astronomical compared to the 1970’s.
DM must have never learned how to boil a frog. He’s losing his parishioners, and I’m sure more to come.
Although I no longer practice Scientology, I will say something for the Student Hat. I bought the HSDC in 1976 and the Student Hat was thrown in for free. The tapes were anything but “clear” sound at the time and there was no glossary to speak of. Hard-to-find words were just that: hard to find! I was going to university at the time and did the Student Hat on a very part time schedule. The course was tough but the check sheet was not overly long. And for my purposes at the time it worked very, very well. My grades in university went from just above average to straight A’s across the board. In the Library study rooms I could be seen at a chalkboard dashing out equations and Organic Chemistry formulas for practice, and people started asking if they could study with me because I was making it look easy. So a glossary of hard-to-find words, clearer recordings and better transcripts were all I would have asked for in 1976, and these were done years later. To now have to M4 the whole bloody thing and do the course twice is baffling to say the least. There’s an old saying that applies here: “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
Right you are!
I also did the Student Hat in the 70s and had great success with it – despite louse A/V equipment and no transcripts of the lectures . And in those days, the Academies I saw in 3 or 4 different organizations I personally was in that time were packed with people. If I remember correctly, already at that time the Student Hat was free of charge with a major course — and that was at a time LRH was not only around but ran the SCN organizations worldwide. So, how ‘On-Source’ is COB’s 4Gs? (If the above data provided is actually accurate).
Seems to me after all the waiting and the hype that this is one of the biggest let downs in Scientology history. Apart of a couple of technical details the are effectively just another way of slowing people down. The super power release was just blah and with all the trying to keep it out of sight of the public (namely us here) for fear of mockery Scientology and DM became a non event. This is the end. Nothing new can be done and if it is its going to just reflect back on DM. I feel that the orgs will suffer badly from now on (not that they weren’t anyway)
I have a few questions I hope someone can answer…on the Cause Resurgence Rundown…how does one get programmed for that? By Flag? How would an org C/S know to suggest sending someone for it? Or do you C/S yourself for it? (the way lots of other things seem to get done these days.) And if you can do it more than once, I see this becoming an easy “go to” action for the Flag tours to now start promoting every time they appear at an org. It’s cheap enough that it will be more appealing than spending $5000/hr.
Oh…and when I did Student Hat, it cost $125.
Hahaha, Mike Wreggitt…I just saw your comment. 🙂
Bela,
It was first being used to snap all of the messed up cases (messed up supposedly by David Mayo) out of their accumulated masses.
Then it was used to dump everybody who was perceived as having screwed up on their post.
With the black Dianetics and reversed Scientology being applied these days it should be real easy to get C/Sed for the CRR.
I can already envision hordes of Kool-Aid drinkers run around the pole, maybe even in wheel chairs……
Greta
Thank Greta. I’m sure it will be pushed quite heavily as it does not require an auditor. They can jam a hundred people on at one time…if there are 100 left, that is.
“…they can jam a hundred people on at one time…if there are 100 left, that is.” Well said, Bela. That much running is bad for you. New scientific research shows that jogging for long distances at the same pace actually harms the heart and makes it get smaller. You can google PACE program and Dr. Mercola and Dr. Sears and others about this. And there also is taspect of the knees and ankles taking a beating too. Since it doesn’t require an auditor and very little CS time, my guess is it will be sold and sold and sold as it is highly profitable for the church for the amount of money paid versus time to oversee or deliver it.
Wow, Miscavige figured out two more ways to block the Bridge, by taking a gateway course (Student Hat) and making it next to impassable for a relatively new Scientologist (M4 of everything with all attendant difficulties), but even before that the $4000 price tag will certainly discourage most new people from even starting.
I think under the heading of “What is missing?” you should surely have added “The wife of David Miscavige”?
I mean, she MUST have been there, right?
You can’t tell me the wife of the Chairman of the Board would not have been there for one of the greatest moments in the history of Scientology!
And I just love this, it has to be the greatest way to avoid saying “you just run around in circles” in the history of the universe:-
“An entire floor of the flag building is devoted to the Cause Resurgence Rundown. It is an OT action that is not limited to OTs. Moreover it can be done many times and at many points on the Bridge with enormously greater gains available the higher one’s level of case. The building was designed to incorporate every aspect of the Cause Resurgence Rundown from all support and admin spaces to the central delivery area itself.”
Where is LRH’s office in this new building?
Who?
🙂
Pat,
I expect Davey would have it located in the basement near the waste receptacles. That way he could easily discard the other outdated LRH materials with minimal effort.
Yea, I’m feeling a tad cynical today. Must be a case problem!!!
Coop, oh, you ARE ba-ah-aad-dd today…..
Greta
Pat Shannon,
Very good question.
My guess there is non.
But the entire 7 th floor is David Miscaviges Office and command center.
A question… are any of the whales, any of the really big Church of Scientology donors, engineers? Or architects? I know there are doctors, dentists, etc, but as someone who considers himself technically proficient at “stuff,” here is what I take away from the building.
The building “cost” at least $145M, but most likely the Church of Scientology collected even more in donations. Perhaps $180M or even $200M…. I’ve read estimates at some point but can’t remember them. Perhaps someone here can provide at better estimate.
Anyway….
Let’s say the CoS says the building cost $150M. If I’m taking the tour of the building, I would be asking myself, “where did the money go?”
The basement is a kitchen. Assuming it is completely professional, with facilities you would find on an aircraft carrier, or in a world-class kitchen, then this would set you back no more than $7M all in. I doubt the set up is professional, of course.
The 1st floor is full of A/V displays. Again, I guess this would be no more than $5M, all in.
The 2nd floor is course rooms. Basically empty rooms, without showers, kitchens, etc. It’s office space by another name. Probably the most expensive ingredient here is the bugging set-up, with video cameras and microphones and the hardware required to store all the info. I’ll be generous and say that this would cost $10M, although I’m being far-too-generous.
3rd floor is HGC; I don’t know what that means, but again, how much could that be?
4th is “cause resurgence,” aka a running track. It’s an empty floor. So, max $1M.
5th floor is Superpower. This is where an engineer/architect should have alarm bells ringing. This is the whole reason for the existence of the building, and for the 15 years+ of donations. And what have the donations bought?
Basically fuck all.
The oiliness table costs, at most $200,000. The gyroscope costs far less than that. As for the other “perceptics” training devices, their costs are similarly low.
Surely, ANY engineer or architect, or anyone who has thought of building shit, will start to estimate the cost of things in their head and come up with a big WTF. The equipment on this floor doesn’t cost anything, and could have been produced years ago.
As for the other floors, floor 6 is closed. No doubt because it is empty.
And the top floor is the private floor for DM, which seems an extravagant extravagance.
For those inside the bubble, or bubble watchers with their fingers on the pulse, has there been an exodus since it opened? Or is there a feeling of an impending exodus?
Mark,
Yes I am one of those types but you really don’t have to be one to arrive at the correct conclusion which you have done rather well IMHO.
I ‘went there’ with the landlords office back in 2004 after completing new OT VIII to help plan the Sac Ideal Org. All of the issues that have been mentioned previously relative to Idle Morgues are true and were repeated at Sac. The Crem De La Crem was having an employee of Staubach Project Management ( I have his name in my files somewhere) tell me that it was CO$ policy that a parishioner who was a General Contractor was not allowed to be the GC for the Ideal Org, that it had to be a wog GC. (yes, flags went up but not the Clearwater type) Also. all verbal, nothing written.
Mark Pisani of the CO$ landlords office was also present and nodded his head that that data was true. I asked why such a ‘stupid’ policy ………………… and the beginning of my dissaffection was duly noted!!!!!
Turns out that I am a licensed Architect and a licensed General Contractor in California and at the time was in process doing a design and construction project for a national church (name omitted for privacy) that involved a 165 acre campus and a 50+ million dollar masterplan with upgrades to existing buildings and a new 60,000 sf multipurpose building. I have been in business for over 35 years and i run my own company which specializes in design and construction of solar and energy efficient buildings and design concepts.
I stuck with the Idle Morgue process for the next few years trying to deal with what were obvious insanities but increasingly the alarm bells were rung. By 2008 I traveled to LA and met with Vice president of the CO$, Ed Parkin to discuss building strategies and the concept of purchasing land for a CO$ campus style design which LRH describes in his literature on ideal orgs ……………..”they should be out in the country and not more than a few stories high”…..and of course IMHO they should be very state of the art and energy efficient.
Anyway, while I was describing that to Ed and a few others, my wife was being crush regged by Teddy Braggin and five other staff in another room, one of which was dressed in all black to give the idea she was RTC. My now ex wife became very ill following that encounter and it was not for another two months until I found out what had happened.
Long story short, the CO$ is not at all interested in having a knowledgeable parishoner involved in ANY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT because they might actually SEE what is really going on. Even more so if he/she/it has knowledge in planning, design, budgeting and so on. The closest you will get is someone who can do 3-D animations to keep the sheeple in awe at events but they do not have to base any design concept in reality…….just get the pretty pictures out.
Needless to say, Staubach Project Management is long gone having failed in an industry that the boss knew nothing about (remember, he was in the football industry down in the great state of Texas) and Gensler Architects, while still around, to my knowledge is not involved with the insane CO$ any more. So much for their cookie cutter cost saving designs and the other total bullshit that was/is being peddled by Quinn Taufer and and the other know bests at the Kool Aide stand.
It is a money making scam cleverly disguised as the only way to save the universe. Pathetic is all I wish to say.
No worries though ………..this will all be over very soon!!
Forgot to add…….
Yo Dave……..which is the next Morgue you plan on getting opened up for the dwindling herd. I hear the sheep shearings are getting closer to the skin these days. Sorry I can’t help but tell Quinn hi for me.
Yeah! and on top of hat … as it happened in one area I was in, a local Scientologist, who’s a certified GC, was promised a “shot at the contract”, if he would up his donations to become an ‘Humanitarian’. Needless to say, even though this GC paid more for that local Ideal Organization, and even thought he was toured, and capered to at the Landlord Office in LA, he didn’t even hear back on his proposals! He was just ignored! I guess, you are totally right in your assumption that a knowledgeable SCN GC might ‘see’ too much and ask unwanted questions.
Coop,
Thanks for the fascinating inside story. But why would the church pick Wog contractors over a Scn contractor since Wogs can sue for their money when the church doesn’t pay or pays too slowly? A churchie contractor could never sue for their money and thus the church could stiff them and then tell them that they should do it for free to flow power to clearing the planet etc.
Or maybe it is as you say, the real worry was not whether they’d be sued but whether the churchie contractor would see the figures and bottom line and know that they were regging donationsin excess of twice the cost of building the place, and they worried that the church contractor would talk about it to others etc.
Quinton is a tool. I know.
Fantastic stuff. Thank you for the insightful reply.
Considering how much the Church of Scientology proclaims its love for “artists,” it seems to me that their adulation only reaches actors.
This is strange to me, because architecture, engineering and design are ALL “arts.” Art doesn’t begin on a TV set and end at the movie theatre.
So who was the contractor lucky enough to get the project for the SP Building? Was it all done in house somehow? I was under the assumption that most, if not all, of the manual labour would probably be done by Sea Org members.
Am I way off base there?
Cause resurgence is the new cash cow.
Public arriving at Flag:
“You’ve been c/sed for CRR. That’ll be an additional $2,500 (plus accomos, IAS donos, event hall donos, etc, etc.”
“But I did it 6 months ago!!”
“Hmmm, voicing critical thoughts…CRR, plus 3 intensives of sec checking.”
You mean Cash resurgence?
I know the idea DM having any sort of cognition is a kind of mismatch of concepts but hasn’t it occurred to him that he can’t bully and force the public to want Scientology. He may be able to achieve some sort appearance of worthwhile progress by layers of lipstick on the pig, but the general public have resoundingly rejected Scientology – His brand anyway. He can beat and haze and rpf staff till Kingdom come, he can make the Student Hat 3X longer and meter course half as long. And Scientology continues its slide into obscurity.
The Student Hat is lengthened?????????????? I heard it was supposed to be shortened. WTF is that all about???
Seems to me DM’s operating basis is to ignore or deny that Scn was ever successful before his reign. That it was hopelessly broken and in need of repair. This says a lot about what he thinks of LRH and veteran Scnists. Essentially, not only did they get it wrong, but they never really understood the subject itself. Only wide-eyed newbies and failed cases can buy into that.
statpush, in His “mind” He has to do that because HE “broke” it, and the stats are down because of HIM.. So, while He claims the stats are up, He at the same time KNOWS the stats are DOWN and and suspects that we also know that the stats are down, and this missed-withold phenomena never gets handled so He obsessively continues to convince everyone that everything was actually no good BEFORE but is getting better NOW because of HIM, and – is your head spinning? Mine is 🙂
Interesting… did Miscavige change his floor blueprints over the last couple years for the SP Building?
According to the plans that Tony got a hold of a couple years ago, basement was for staff, first floor was reception/museum space, second was HCO/bookstores/Flag offices, third and fourth housed Purif, auditing rooms, and more offices, fifth was perceptics and SP, sixth was the running program, and seventh was Dave’s floor with a couple of celebrity and whale reception rooms.
I seem to remember Dave ordering massive renovations a couple years ago, Did he move the running track?
Either way, I find it hilarious that the most mundane rundown is a huge secret that can’t be shown. All it looks like is that this level isn’ fully finished being built out yet, so sorry, no tours.
Thank you, special correspondent! Keep bringing some sunshine, it’s the best disinfectant!
I agree. Five minutes is perfect …….. wait, let’s make that five SECONDS….for EVERY Miscavige/Sherman drivel babble talk.
Totally agree Silvia. The course supervisor deciding the size of cans???? Ridiculous! …..THAT IS WHAT THE DRILL IS FOR! LRH wrote that drill to train auditors how to find the correct can size for their pcs. I can’t imagine anyone who has ever audited a pc or done meter drills falling for that one.
As far as the 7th floor goes I heard that they put all of the toilets up there, too.
…that way gravity can take everything down to the lower floors to be dispersed.
Mike I highly recommend you go and see Enders Game, I think you and your wife would really enjoy it.
Thanks Tony. Will probably wait til its on Netflix or HBO. Jack doesnt do too well in the movies yet…. 🙂
When I arrived in 95 for training at Flag to be a GAT Wcer for CCI I was already fast flow. But I had to do the Student hat two more times through with the m4s and all that and the. Take a test both times. If you didn’t get 100% on the second test you got an HCO sec check and had tondo the course and repeat till you got 100%. Then once the study certainty was being piloted on us we all had to do that too. So I guess 4 times I have done it. Ugh.
ExRPFer — ouch! I am turning on somatics just thinking of having to do that line-up. Insane!!
Yeah. It was bad. But we had to know all those big words so maybe I’m smarter! 😉
The new (to me) smaller chart “Dianetics & Scientology Introductory Routes” will still help them pull in the public before they have to do the Student Hat. Very interesting. Get the youngin’s in, while stopping the older trained.
If I was still in and on the bridge and had to do the $4,000 course, I would be on my way out. I’m certain many will be turned off by having to do this over and above what they have and stall /delay more on the bridge.
Oh, maybe they can do, for almost half price and faster, a Super Power Disney ride.
The bridge to nowhere!
Oh my, – $4000 for a student hat! Just think, 70s very early 80s you could get through a $50 life changing never to be forgotten Comm Course,- through the student hat with massive huge wins, co-audit objectives … totally blown out, get through the NED course co- auditing tons of engrams, and through an internship, then onto levels, Clear for some and more for that. Yes, you could spend a lot in the HGC if you wanted to, – but you didn’t have to. You could buy the courses and have fantastic co- audits and become a very good auditor very quickly. No lack of twins, because there were so many people in the academy moving along and auditing. Overflowing academy – you had to get there early to get a chair. The academies were packed all day and all evening, 7 days a week. This is how the Cosmod missions were, (Church of Scientology Mission of Davis – missions.) Tons of auditng hours, packed academies with blown out winning students. Now you see kids born into Scn, some are 30 years old now and have never run any engrams!!!!! Why, because they are running hundreds of hours of objectives and stuck plodding through the basics, then levels if they are lucky and then you can run an engram!!!. I actually met an ED of an Org in the last couple years that had never run any engrams, still plodding through the basics and lengthly objectives. Just imagine. It is jaw dropping. Now the student hat is 3x longer? What all do you have to do to even get on the student hat. Do you do all the basics first then go on a $4000 student hat? Last I was told, the nearby org was having people do all the basics as a div 6, – no student hat first. Just thinking of those tremendous academies in the 70s very early 80s, so many people moving up the bridge, happy winning students and PCs, then to think of what is happening now. Sad.
MAK — you speak sooth. You just described the line-up I did in 1972 and loved it. DM’s only outlet is to change. He can’t lead – except through threats and duress. He can’t think, except in outpoints and out gradients. All he has is the ability to alter and he’s doing that with reckless abandon. Sad indeed.
Co auditing has dropped out hasn’t it? I do not think you are permitted to co audit anymore.
If it is dropped out it would make sense…it made you too smart (as an auditor) and it was waaaaaay too economical to just trade with someone else and pay for some C/Sing. Can’t have THAT anymore now, can we!
We in RTC categorically deny the false statement “This ‘new low rate’ may simply be a lower rate in name only.“ made above by SP J. Swift (Nov 19, 2013 at 7:32 pm).
We used the most advanced technology in order to precisely calculate the MINIMUM FEASIBLE voluntary donations for our services.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_optimization
For such complex, precise and time consuming calculations we needed to rent and use the D-Wave Two quantum annealing supercomputer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Wave_Systems
On an unrelated matter, we also rented and used the Tianhe-2 supercomputer for tracking last week’s 33,891,209 VIP attendees.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianhe-2
You kill me!
This cock-up could only be implemented by someone who is not trained (in addition to being a stupid asshole).
He Who Must Not Be Named, Chairman of the Board Religious Technology Center Mr. David Miscavige is a pencil-pusher. He’s not a tech terminal; He’s in charge of the corporation that administers copyrights.
He’s not an auditor. He washed out of His Class IV training by slapping His PC at SH some 40 years ago. He hasn’t been in the chair since, probably not as a PC and certainly not as an auditor.
If anyone thought LRH was a charlatan, well, Little Hitler has him beat by a country mile. At least the Old Man could audit.
The Old Man said the subject (of Scientology) was complete, about the time he wrote Battlefield Earth (which was certainly better than the movie, ha) – he said the subject was complete and he was going to have some fun writing some Science Fiction again. There is no “Lost Tech,” except that which was “lost” by that bumbling idiot Miscavige Himself.
These days, the complete subject of Scientology is available outside the Corporation for anyone who wants it. Those inclined to study and practice the subject no longer have to subject themselves to the kind of crap perpetrated by the “Church.”
Now, I’m looking forward to the day when those who are disinclined can be so in peace.
Gus
It really makes my head wobble trying to piece the bridge together these days in the Cos. Basic training ideas of avoiding tooling a runaway, studying what is relevant to application of a skill and gradients of learning towards better and better arc/krc having left the building and the orgs and the knowingness of the faithful. Such a vacuum is such a travesty given its presence in their minds in the first place has been there so fleetingly. The (un)funny thing is that if there really was a cry from the public after proper evals that the student hat needed a bit more oomph then there’s the Primary Rundown. And further eat of un funnies then becomes that in the time that students could now be on the student hat is likely on the same order as PRD. How much more a point of interest would that have been? It’s sad what the ‘custodians’ of the tech are doing to rape and pillage the bridge. Oh well, enough sympathy for the dark.
Nicely said. I did the PRD in 72-73 and it “re-routed” a few chromosomes for sure. A great course. It is sad. It’s like walking through a shanty-town and seeing large windows used as doors or metal Pepsi signs lining a roof. Nothing as it was originally intended.
my good friend Marty has a 2D addition YAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOGD1WkJJok
I’m not or have never been a scientologist but I find all this very fascinating. I was told by a close friend of mine that Miscavige is making the student hat 3X longer because it was Tom Cruises favorite course, because it “cured” him of his dyslexia. Funny, because I saw a David letterman episode several years back and he asked tom to read the top 10, he was struggling with several very common words. Also isn’t Scientology supposed to help your communication? It seems Tom has a rich history of spewing word vomit every time he opens his mouth.
Incredible news regarding the Student Hat changes. Sure it isn’t a joke?
Endless invalidation of people in the CoS. No one can learn, can read, can duplicate LRH materials, leading to all sorts of weird solutions for a problem that doesn’t even exist.
I think all this is a dramatization of DM’s own case and his viewpoints. Perhaps how he really feels about himself.
What a sad and f’d up world he lives in. All by himself.
Pepper you hit the nail on the head with Davie is running his own case and failures as a student and as a case on all the sheeple. Since he can’t study, neither can they, and since his ethics are out, he runs heavy justice on them.
+1
Whoa! I have such a major peeve about the invalidation of study tech starting with gag 1. These student hat changes are an actual violation of study tech, out gradient, imbalance of mass and significance, not to mention, data series outpoints, altered importance, incorrectly included, added inapplicable etc. As an auditor, I had a steady diet of bogged students and they need care, like anyone, struggling with uncertainty and invalidation. Knowing/knowledge/learning are very close in relationship, so it is easy for invalidation to occur. Whole track suppressive education can get restimulated which can and should be handled. The clearing of words to fn is very important, for understanding, but also for release of charge. This done badly creates bucket loads of trouble. You can imagine what the squirrel, 3 swing fn has done to cause study invalidation and overrun. If all necessary actions are done to help people training, it can be very successful. My point is, that there are valid handlings for just about anything, if they are available and done in a safe environment. I think the training environment has gotten so robotic, regimented, out tech, hostile and expensive, that the runway is just impossible to fathom. This new student hat is a large, locked, iron door on a bridge that is already unnavigable. Dm is very very basically, a failed student. He can’t study and doesn’t know what Scn is.
Poignant and true Hallie. When I read about the revamped Student Hat, it reminded me of a time in 1978 when I read a book put out by a real Squirrel in San Francisco. This idiot was rewriting the axioms and altering each one just enough to make my head hurt. DM is a Squirrel. He carefully deconstructs the tech by claiming nefarious acts perpetrated by malicious transcriptionists, and then reconstructs them, altering things along the way. The result is a blocked passage, a stop. All the while crowing about how important he is and how he’s saving SCN. Where’s an errant lightning bolt when you need one?
Just got another call from someone who hasn’t given me the time of day in 5 years, who all of a sudden is so interested in what I’m doing and how I’m feeling and can we get in comm and, oh, by the way, and can he/she confirm me for the event this weekend if I’m not already confirmed… so phony, so sad, and – whew! Sooo glad I’m no longer part of this RCS insanity and instead, part of THIS group, with which I can share myself honestly and without fear! Thank you again, Mike, for making this possible for me, and to all of you as well 🙂
Aquamarine, they probably have their quotas (yes they are now giving public people quotas) to get people in who have been “off the Bridge” for some time.
Jane, thanks. Makes sense now. The person who called me is a public auditing on OTVII.
You’re right Aquamarine. The OT VII’s have more and more being stacked up on their plates such as: Must hold a post on the OTC, must be a Patron or above with IAS, must recruit two others to start on OT VII, must help rehab and get back on the Bridge others who have been off a long time. And these look good in their ethics file, or if they are doing Lowers, saying you activated a long off the Bridge person gets them out of Lowers. And all of these extras are done in addition to their 4 to 6 sessions a day and working to earn the money for the squirrel Sec Checks each 6 months. Many OT VII’s I talked to who are off the level are very relieved to be off the level.
I high crimed the HCOB on the RP AKA Cause Resurgence and don’t remember the Ol’man saying it was different than any other RD.
Or that it could be done over & over again.
It’s obvious that they are “auditing” people with this false technical datum that RDs can be run over & over & over again like say the Purif or Objectives which again there is no technical datum that I’m aware of that says that you redo these RDs once completed and attested to.
This thing about the Student Hat is going to put a block on training for sure for reasons the poster listed. I mean with this false datum about 3 swing F/Ns and all that has made just getting a Meter check something to avoid. Can one imagine having to M4 every reference in the Student Hat including the tapes by this “standard” (or more correctly non standard technical datum) which is almost too painful to consider!
Like I wrote earlier one would expect NED to be replaced by the HSDC (i.e. seeming to move ahead while going backwards) and pulling out an old hoary copy of RED 174 which introduced the “Primary Rundown” is a perfect example as this.
First REDs or LRHEDs are written to solve immediate problems and only last for a year.
Secondly it was written at a time when there really wasn’t a full student hat. Later policies never required anything other than star rates on important HCOBs and PLs and if the student couldn’t make it on that then there was always the Primary Correction RD.
I mean if Miscavige was following in the Ol’man’s footsteps as he claims to be and following this RED by the letter everyone would be on Method 8 prior to doing the Student Hat.
Something that worked well back then for many students but was too much of a strain for most.
Besides with the KTL/LOC it’s no longer required.
(Funny that the “COB” didn’t mention anything about those RDs which are actually prerecs for Super Power for both those receiving it and especially those who are being trained on it.
Yet not a murmur.
I mean if it all was as simple as TRs and Objectives there would have never been any need for NWC to pilot KTL/LOC for almost a decade and Super Power wouldn’t have been on the “back burner” for so long.
Now they are going to throw it or more likely some altered version of it out like pearls to the rich swine who paid top dollar for a “cornerstone”.
Sigh….
Anyhoo..)
With the new “Ridge on the Bridge” being this arbitrary “basics” course.
(Trust me folks you don’t have to run Creative Processing or R1 11 with the PC fully exterior to become a competent levels auditor.)
And this new “Student Hat”. I’m sure business will be really booming in the Field 🙂
I read the raw “running program” advices when I had to cover for the Intern Sup Flag, and give high crime checkouts on them to the Flag RPF Qual people.
One thing I recall is LRH discussed “second wind” and another point is that the running program is based in part on an OT therapy used zillions of years ago, to rehabilitate OTs, by having them do large ovals or circles in outer space.
This then ties in with the OT process to be done after one’s dead, “unhindered by the body” and LRH telling Sarge Steven Pfauth that LRH planned to go circle a distant star as LRH’s next action, this makes sense if you put all these writings and LRH’s words to Sarge, together.
Lawrence Wright’s book final two pages, and Marty’s book, chapter 24 “Meanwhile Back at the Ranch” are must reads, in conjunction with the theory on the running program.
(I’m an atheist, I’m just telling what I read, I don’t believe in this theory and so forth, but I wish to heck all of LRH’s writings, all the full layout that supposedly was laid out at the Int Base for that project a couple years ago, I wish it all were made public, including of course LRH’s tech writings, all of the private traffic, all of the private tech briefings he gave, etc.
Lay it all out, and then lots of things make sense, if you believe in the soul, and believe that there’s been certain therapy processes for millions of years, and running or moving in circles and ovals, does lead to some sort of spiritual rehabilitation. “second wind” phenomenon is sometimes experienced by some runners, for instance. Not that this is valid, but I recall LRH mentioning second wind in the traffic on the running program. I think he said the actual spiritual gain is not just second wind, or something.
Anyways, to say that it could be done over and over, one thing in what LRH said about how the OT running program was used on OTs in the past, made it sound like it could be used on OTs over and over, as need be, the way LRH phrased describing how it was done in the past on OTs, is all.
Finally, If Sarge is to be believed, and I’m sure he is, then LRH is supposedly out doing the OT running program as we speak.
Chuck, you’ve mentioned being an aetheist a few times. That’s just someone who doesn’t believe in the Supreme Being/Creator/God, right? Cause I’m one too and LRH makes MANY comments throughout his work making less of the existence of a god.
Chuck,
Who knows?
Ron may be doing an OT RP or maybe’s he on another planet in another Galaxy taking a break.
The one he talks about in Scn Clear Procedure.
The only thing I know is that when I HCed the HCOB I don’t remember any mention of doing the RD over & over again.
Though I do remember him talking about it as a Whole Track therapy
And also that he does talk about his theory behind the phenomenon of “second wind” which he also discusses in the Chapter on Exhaustion in Problems of Work.
How we ran the pilot in LA was way different than the way they ran it at the base.
First it was done doing the evening so the runners wouldn’t suffer from heat exhaustion.
Secondly we had a Medical Liaison Officer who supervised the runners standing by with water and supplements for them and handled any sprains or took them off the track if they too exhausted.
Thirdly it was a level track used in track and field.
Finally we used an actual pole as a reference point like it says in the HCOB. Not a fricking tree!
Unlike Int.
We didn’t have them running 15 hours a day in the desert heat during the summer which despite the original name “Winter HQ” got pretty damn hot that time of year.
Around a uneven foot pounded path around a tree with no medical supervision.
Most importantly. We ran the Rundown as a case action strictly according to the Auditors Code with the runners getting review if they needed it.
Unlike Int which used the rundown as some form of punishment!
I was having a conversation with a friend who was on 7 and gave up because she was treated so horribly (unable to come back home, when she really needed to.) She mentioned an idea that I thought would have been great. What if LRH was was like the Dali Lama and could reincarnate and be tested and verified. I realize that LRH had flaws but nothing like the Psychopath Miscavige and who knows, maybe in a new life he could work on those flaws. I guess it’s it all wishful thinking but an interesting thought.
I’ve always thought that Scientology could make a positive impact on civilization with the Comm Course and Student Hat alone.
So, why is it any surprise to me that David Miscavige would come up with yet one more way to unmock the fundamental and most broadly useful tools of Scientology by making learning them overly complicated, burdensome, and time-consuming? It breaks my heart that so much of what I had hoped for and worked for is being crushed under the weight of his impulse to cruelty.
That’s what this new line up for the student hat is – cruel. Now, getting through the simplicity of a student hat course is not only time-consuming, it is dependent on access to certified word clearers and auditors to handle case issues that arise on the meter. It is dependent on a student having loads of time and money – at the bottom of the bridge, before many have even decided to become a “scientologist” or developed a desire to become an auditor.
The net result will be that enrollment numbers for this simple and wonderful course – useful across the boards – will be nearly zeroed out.
Leonore,
Come on! He is just setting up for the New Student Hat which will be required cancelling all student hat certs from the new one. It’s so predictable.
The sheer joy of never again having to listen to the mad rants of of an idiot who can’t audit tell me how it’s done! Or the inane orders from someone who should know better, but chooses to follow the mad man.
If there were 10,000 people there to see the opening, and each tour included 75 people, there would have been 133 tour groups, and the tours would have lasted 266 hours total. Clearly, the tours would have overlapped since each tour lasted 2 hours and the groups left every 10 minutes. But, come on, it had to be obvious to everyone that there weren’t 10,000 people there, or any thing close to 10,000. Even without considering the length of time it would take 133 tour groups to tour the building, and how they would be bumping into and tripping over each other, 133 tour groups leaving every ten minutes still would have taken 22 hours to get everyone on a tour. That didn’t happen. For the truly addicted Kool Aid drinkers, however, these facts won’t matter. It is not what they see that matters, it is what they have been told. If Miscavige tells them 10,000 people were there, they will believe it. Otherwise Miscavige will tell them, “who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?”(Nonetheless, there appear to be some cracks in the brainwashing, people didn’t wait in the hot sun for their tour of the most important building in human history? )
They can believe those lying flying squirrels – up there in the helicopter! 🙂
God I love it when someone does the math. Brilliant observation!
“It is not what they see that matters, it is what they have been told.”
I think it also has to do with what they want or wish was real. Those still in are stuck on the hope that what he says is true. They read DMSMH and believed all that was written. Now they are OT and have nor achieved what was in Book I. They still want those abilities, they feel betrayed, they have invested too much time and money to give up now, but are told that the only chance to get what you came for is to do this next twist of the tech. I can see their viewpoint. The only hope they have is to continue if they ever hope to achieve the gains that they were promised. In for a penny, in for a pound as the saying goes. The cognition they need is that there never were the gains inside the Cof$ to get where they wanted to go, at least not since DM took the helm. They need to look to the indy field for that.
It just occurred to me that there could be a study tech reason for those still-ins being so blind to outpoints, in that they’ve been doing the Basics for years now, which is all theory and no practical, and with no real necessity to clear words in order to pass the course. They could be riddled with MUs, actually, and as LRH states, they can cause “a vast panorama of mental effects”. I myself have experienced the truth of this but then I have a great deal of word-clearing tech under my belt, including KTL, and MUs really do leap up at me, and its a very ordinary action now for me to simply spot them and get them cleared up. At the very least, if I don’t get them cleared up, I know what they are.
I usually try to look at things the church does technically without jumping to conclusions and with trying to see how maybe what they are doing could be correct in some way.
But with a $4000 Student Hat and having to M4 the whole course I am beside myself with incredulity. There are so many things glaringly wrong with this, I don’t have time to list them. Good luck with this one, Course Sups of the world. I can only rejoice that I am not there to experience this nightmare.
If this is successful I swear I will do all my A to E steps, and then do something to get declared again just to show the world how wrong I was.
I am actually speechless with the overt-ness of the suppressive-ness of this new Student Hat requirement. Can this really be accurate data? I’m not being sarcastic.
I am with Aquamarine. It’s been so long since I did the Student Hat that I don’t remember if the requirement was there that you do it twice. Was it always twice through? I was told by a Kool Aid drinker that the new SH when it comes out will make it so much easier and faster for our kids to get through it. Ha! With doing it 2X through, M4ing it all, (assuming you have enough trained Word Clearers on course, and that the students are sessionable, and that they don’t have Hi or Low TA problems, or Out Int or or or ). What a nightmare. Maybe it is DM’s diabolical SP way to stop people from becoming auditors by not being able to get through Student Hat before they go into overrun, apathy, and blow.
Jane, I did Student Hat in the early 90s, before GAT I came out, and didn’t have to do it twice at that time.
” I can only rejoice that I am not there to experience this nightmare.”
Hear! Hear!
One more thing:
Combine a Method 4 of the Student Hat with a 3-swing F/N requirement and you have marathon word clearing sessions with students holding the cans for hours making hundreds of sentences for a word with the word clearer’s eyes glued to that needle hoping desperately for that third swing, or going for earlier similar words with the same cycle over and over. Then onto the next word. Oh my God.
And one more thing:
It’s not that it’s a bad thing to thoroughly word clear the Student Hat, because I can see that a lot of people don’t really get it and retain it all by just studying it one time through.
But there’s supposed to be 1) the Student Hat, at low cost, and then 2) the Primary Rundown which is much more thorough and more suited to getting the students through it because they are twinned up.
The M4s required on the PRD after clearing every single word with a twin I’m sure go much smoother and are easier to get through (especially if no arbitrary 3-swing F/N) than someone who just studies it and then gets M4.
On this new Student Hat, there is too much required of the Supervisors and Word Clearers, and actually even if the student is willing to pay $4000 for it, that’s not cost effective when you consider the amount of concentrated one-on-one attention that must be given to each individual student.
How many Word Clearers would you need to have if you had booming academy where people were getting through this new Student Hat?
How many people do you think the average current Scn courseroom could get through the newest version of the Student Hat in a month’s time?
very good questions and observations. Thanks.
I believe this is the end for Scamonology!! Hip Hip Hooray!! It sounds like a HUGE letdown after the hype. Nothing left to $ell for $lappy Miscavige – what is your prediction Mike? What is next for the cult?
It really is just more of the same old bullshit. The cob thinks he has it all correct and then the public start spotting all the out points with it and it then takes 18 years for the cob to make the corrections. He still misses the real out-points and doesn’t really resolve anything. He would have to remove himself from post just to get the party started.
I just saw “Enders Game” last night and one of the people in the movie was just the type of person that dm is. It is a great movie for those interested in movies.
Oh, I saw that! That little cruel domineering short boy who ruled by physical intimidation and even had his goons for support!
I was sitting there and every time I saw this short psychotic boy I thought of how much he was like Miscavige.
Lol. He was perfect for the role.
Yup. The image portrayed is that COB has the midas touch, but if you actually look at what he does, I will not say “nearly” but… Every. Single. Thing. Corncob touches. He kills. He cannot spot a correct source, cannot spot a right Why, cannot spot a correct target. He is as incapable of these things as is a pig on roller skates of flying to Mars by virtue of a soda straw in his rectum intended to serve as a rocket engine. That’s how incapable this idiot is. Why would anyone unmock a great, simple A to B course the Student Hat? This guy will do anything to stop the training of auditors. All I can say is thanks pig brain for driving even more people into the indie field. Send us a post card from Mars.
Steve, stated simply and correctly. The outpoint is why people can’t see that and observe what they observe. Maybe we need to publish a book with each one’s views on COB…. lol ! I think it would be a great success!
I think a monthly magazine would be more appropriate. He makes big blunders every month, so we need to keep everyone up to date.
DM is the out-point 😉
Wow, this student hat thing is a whole new level of hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil for the im-asleep-tologists. When I heard that after 17 years of jammed training DM was finally being compelled to fix the metering course, I immediately wondered how he was going to keep the training bridge nailed shut. This is pure evil genius. Instead of nailing the bridge shut at metering, why not make student hat impassable! God, can you imagine trying to 3 swing your way through hundreds of pages of M4 word clearing. What a nightmare. This course will take many months to complete at Flag and years to complete at Class V level. A proper replacement for the nightmare out-tech metering course that he devised to torture people who are trying to get trained as auditors. This is not really an indictment of DM- it is really an indictment of the whole Scientology religion that it would create a group of people so complacent, so compliant, so weak willed, that they would allow a self appointed leader to do absolutely anything as long he says it with a lot of conviction and a tear in his eye. DM does not really shock me. It is the im-asleep-tologist in the street that shocks me. What a bunch of weak kneed pussies. Here is a number for Scientologists to call-1800-GETASPINE.
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If DM ran the Department of Motor Vehicles and Licensing, you’d have to re-apply for your drivers license every year because new roads had been build, different types of accidents occurred and road insurance policies/advisories had changed and because of all that you never really knew how to drive a car in the first place. You’d also have to be license-classed & certified to drive Semis, trains, school buses and specialized heavy equipment machinery before you’d be allowed to ride a 45cc moped through town.
Dear Roy Macgregor,
you said it exactly. It’s the complacent and compliant ones that are at fault. A scam artist does that and keeps it up until he is stopped. That is his job, to steal from others. Yes he will get his Karma but for now he is just doing his thing. A dog still sniffs butts even when you put a fancy schmancy sweater and woolly hat on it. It’s your fault not putting it out when it shits and pees on you floor. Now he’s a full grown pit bull attack dog that won’t be house broken. You still can move away, or don’t feed him. You do have choices. He doesn’t.
Roy – Yes. Scn never intended to “live anyone’s life for them.” It is to provide tools by which someone who cares to may improve his or her conditions. A black-humor way of looking at what happened is that if you toss one life-ring or flotation devise into the middle of a few dozen drowning men, you’re going to get a mess. It is now up to those strong enough to see truth.
So, a new take on the “This way to the egress” scam by looping them all back to the beginning and take everything they might have managed to hold back the first time through.
Is anybody waking up? Is anybody saying “I have to do the student hat AGAIN!! Fuck that, I’m done!”?
I did the Student Hat at least three times myself. I always got 100 percent. I had method one.
So, fast flow student is canceled?
Do you think this is going to spark a new exodus or do you think everyone left is sufficiently beaten down and running on hope that they cannot muster a protest?
Fast-flow is a Star-Rate checkout kinda deal, different things. The Class IX Course is also M4’d all the way through and it’s so indicated on the checksheet, thus part of checksheet actions themselves.
They’ve already bought the idea of doing OBJECTIVES again,a nd so many have already done the Student Hat and PTP/SP courses multiple times.
Do Student hat one more time? No brainer, the majority will do it. A few will consider this the final straw, most will just load up the dead camel a little more.
Michael Leonard Tilse, I tthink it is the latter, “everyone left is sufficiently beaten down and running on hope that they cannot muster a protest?”
On the Student Hat thing: he basically is saying that everyone in Scientology is slow and glib. That, apparently, was what that handling was for. ( the “twice through” handling).
MUST HAVE—–CAN’T HAVE
It’s like De Ja Vu all over again.( Yogi Berra)
7 th floor is D.M.s Office as I understand from earlier reports.
6 th floor maybe the floor that is bare, no walls or anything. also an earlier report assumption.
Bring your checkbooks, ATM cards, expensive jewelry,and small children that can hold a shovel.
6th floor is obviously intended as the new Hole.
The building is finished. Small children that can hold a rag are what’s needed and wanted.
Another note, Friday’s night white glove…hum, can you estimate at what time the staff will be able to secure before cleaning this monster, lavish building?
A 12.5 hour Flag intensive @ $5,000 = $400 an hour. IMO, David Miscavige needs a stable financial number like this in order to predict cash flow.
In any case, $400 is perhaps real hourly rate Flag has been charging all along for intensives after discounts, training awards, etc. This “new low rate” may simply be a lower rate in name only. I say this because I can’t see DM discounting anything ever.
The lengthening of the Student Hat is not surprising as “grindy busywork torture” has always been part of the Flag experience. If DM can extend the Student Hat 3X while making students stay at Flag, then the hotel income goes up 3X.
There is always some angle, some bait and switch, some scam in everything the Church does.
Good one J. Swift. “Grindy busywork torture” is right.
The way I see it with the Student Hat is the usual means of covert, insidious invalidation of “you are not an able being, you are stupid and thus we will do it this way so you can get it” with the resultant nullification of the purpose to train auditors.
The Sup. deciding the size of cans is backwards and stupid, there is an E Meter Drill that is designed to train the student auditor on how to do it; again, “you are stupid and someone else has to show you how to do it, for your own good, of course”.
In one of the multiple media news re the building it was noted the 7th floor is DM’s and Executive’s offices.
Silvia, you hit the nail on the head! An anti-social thrives on making others feel inferior.
I hate to say something cruel, but only the “stupid” are left anyway. If you got something out of your services, you could see through this. But if you were only damaged, brainwashed, driven in by confessionals, prevented from learning or developing your own life, you would not.
Newsflash:
In the 1980’s the student hat checksheet required people to do it twice through based on the principle that the number of times through materials increases certainty. This was a very good action to have on this course because the Student Hat is the only course one studies without already having done the student hat. One is studying about how to study before one has learned how to study. So it makes sense. Many people did very well on this course. But this is not a new “discovery” of lost Tech. DM and the RTC “lost” this tech when they altered the LRH checksheets the first time.
Method 4s were used on the materials back then, but back then word clearers and auditors recognized and were allowed to call an F/N even if it did not “swing 3 times”. And there were lots of F/Ns!
Also, if this “genius” really wanted a better gradient to improve the ability of people to learn and understand the written word, he might have “un-cancelled” the Key to Life Course which he covertly “disappeared” years ago.
Students were getting bogged on the technical terms of the tapes before which I guess now have been removed. Gotta keep that open-invoice Qual money-machine going though. I would estimate I paid close to $10,000 in review actions by the time I got through the course way back when, as did many others who were quite literate in the first place. Such were and are the trappings of that course. Was a racket then, still a racket in this new universe. They could have fixed it, but NO, can’t kill off that line of additional income.
And as you mentioned, this blows new Scientologists off the lines like no other service ever has. No wonder they try to get as much money out of you as they can as soon as you walk through the door. Only the angle of the nonsense has changed.
Riddle of the week:
By anointing himself “ecclesiastical LEADER”, what position did David Miscavige shift all other Scientologists in to?
ROFL? (That’s my answer, I’m asking if I got it right.)
Sorry, I’m not up to speed on these shortened phrases. I know what LOL means. And the one I created, 2FF (too f&%king funny). And I know what LMAO means. Never heard of ROFL. Royal Obedient Followers at Large?
Thanks for info on 2FF. Good one!
ROFL is rollin’ on floor laughing.
Thanks.
The Oracle The Oracle, are you a new person posting here? Or is this the same earlier one who posted under the name “The Oracle”? I’m trying to figure out why you have two names now when you used to have one?
Ecclesiastical followers. Very causative.
You figured that one out!
Just about every action by Miscalculate in the last 30 years has been to block progress on the Bridge and squeeze more money from existing victims, uh, I mean public. I’m surprised it’s taken him so long to figure out how to make a solid Stop out of the Student Hat.
I think I skipped a gradient somewhere.
Everybody’s pretty much full stop now anyway, having spent the last five years getting shunted off the Bridge and onto the Basics – All without the benefits of qualifying as an actual ‘student’ as per CoBstoppers new SH.
Logically then, seeing as nobody’s an actual SH grad, there are therefore no ‘students’ and there couldn’t possibly be any valid Basics completions.
See where I’m going with this?
The Ridge on the Bridge is now an electrified suicide barrier…I mean, ‘safety fence.’
Ssh, don’t give the cobnut new ideas…
DM: Hey! I got a smart idea! People have short memories because we make sure that they don’t improve their memories. Let’s change everything back to the way it was before and tell them it is NEW and charge them again! (I did not say anything about memory or lack thereof or about changing things back to the way they were)
Am I a genius?
CoolAid Choir: Brilliant! Brilliant! Brilliant, Sir! You’ve done it again. There is no need to remember when we can just KNOW! Yes, you ARE a genius. Hallelujah!! Hallelujah!!
Back in 2000 I was working at a company in NJ that made electronic gadgetry, specifically a Set Top Box. We contacted Flag about the new Super Power Building, it being all high tech and all, to see if they would want to purchase them for their A/V needs. We sent them a demo unit for testing and the cycle progressed. We were in contact with their tech guys and then their purchasing dept, discussing the cost of a large number of units. Then I got a call from a SO member. there at Flag who basically told me that it was horribly, grossly out-ethics for our company (we were members of WISE) to make profit selling stuff to Flag. She went on to explain how Scientology was doing great good for the Planet and that if we were Good Scientologists, and IF we wanted Scientology to expand then we must provide the Set Top Boxes at cost.
All this talk about the Super Power Building brought these pleasure moments back to my mind…
Wow, just sad, exchange in the church means you giveth whatever the church group bank wanteths to taketh away from you in abundance and you better like it and say that you decided to do it or you’ll be called a criminal in abundance. yeah, that about covers it for me.
This reminds me of a success story I saw from a cornerstone member, wherein the person who wrote the SS said, “it is important that we exchange with our church in abundance.”
This is COMPLETELY 180 degrees backwards. The parishioner is the customer. Exchange in abundance would be, for example, assigning a class 8 auditor to a PC who paid for a Class 4 auditor.
Giving more money to the church than something (bridge services) costs means the church is at exchange factor 2 or 1, the criminal band.
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Yep–bend overeth.
So… was it done? Were they supplied at cost, or did your management tell them to stick it? Or did Flag tell you guys to stick it? We gotta have the full story… don’t leave us hanging…
Criminals.
I don’t recall them offering me auditing or training at cost. But then their highway is a one-way out-exchange street anyways.
Did you install the set top boxes then?
No! I basically told the gal that she was out of her mind and we asked for our box back and ended it.
This form of financial/mental/emotional extortion: “You WANT Scientology to expand, don’t you?” or “You want the Org to become an Ideal Org and expand, don’t you?” followed by expectations that you’ll donate money or time to them. The entire implication being that if you DON’T agree to give then OBVIOUSLY you DO NOT want the Church to Expand, and so you’re a Suppressive person.
This is VERY commonly in the Church of Scientology now a days. It is a very covert, manipulative way to garner support!
Bush era policy: if you’re not with us, you’re against us.
Obama era policy: If you like your Bridge, you can keep your Bridge!
Yes, Andy Porter, that is exactly the strategem used to mentally jockey you into forking over your dough for whatever the RCS wants at any given time: “You want us to expand, don’t you?”
Which communicated that if you don’t give them the money, then you are against expansion of Scientology!
THAT headed the top of my list of reasons for leaving the “church”.
They got me a few times with this devious, introverting, button-pressing, A=A ploy, and then I caught on.
From then on, when I was challenged with, “Well, don’t you want us to expand?”, my answer, with a shrug, was, “Well, I guess not. I’m not giving you any money for this, so I guess not.”
I just turned their “logic” right back on them in a kind of bored yet mild, not unfriendly tone. Once I understood the con, I treated it like a bullbait and became a test of my TRs, a kind of challenge, and almost fun.
Hey Aquamarine! I was ‘in” for a long time, most of it on staff in one form or another…at the start the method used to motivate was purpose: the idea that we had an answer and could help, duty and purpose were used. later the method used was force, ordering, demanding and sometimes yelling for compliance…then towards the end, the method used was the one described above, to manipulate and guilt the person into doing something. When I first heard it used I was floored,; such an obviously covert means to gain support…I mean there is covert hostility clear as a bell…what fuckers…anyone who would try to get people to agree to something this way are people I dont want to be around…so when I heard this, it was the last straw for me and I decided finally to get the hell out of dodge…
Boy, good thing they had those Jumbotrons or you never would be able to see him, even from the back row 50 feet away.
Of course for sailor boy they’d be helpful in a closet.
Oh gee, I get it now. He’s so small it makes you think there’s a huge crowd and you’re very far away.
Brilliant!
Locked floor: probably empty and unfinished
No complaints about SH since 1996? I’ll give you one of mine: I didn’t, couldn’t and refused to make it through 2 hours of staring at a HCOB pinned upside down on the wall.
Auditing rates: If no package rates are available, how does that still constitute a decrease on the OT levels?
Summary: DM’s programme of total destruction is humming along nicely. We should be reaching the end of the timetable in a few years.
As a former course supervisor I cringed at the description of new Student Hat. Wonder how many others are as well?
Yep, me as well. When I finally finished the (old) Student hat my cog was “I am now an educated person” which was a great win. DM has got his knickers in a twist with all this. Is St. Hat the PRD now, or KTL or what? Has the BSM disappeared? Etc. etc.
Yes, it is cringe-worthy! Trying to give students wins on that checksheet would be gruesomely challenging.
1. I thought Kelly Preston was already a OT VIII?
2. I can run around millions of trees in Florida (my choice), for free……..just sayin.
Moderation still? really?
HEEY how is that……… in your …….V……. for ya ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsmUOdmm02A
Get yer own blog.
It probably helps to keep useless OSA spam off the page. I guess they’re busier here than at Tony’s.
Really! Ask Tony Ortega,, like he has not deleted my comment in the last few weeks. He has. And like I could care less. I really learned from that. He doesn’t have a problem crushing his critics also!
I am only moderated here when I have something mean to say about others. Because Mike has compassion. I am only moderated on Tony’s blog when I challenge him. That is the difference.
And if you are still interested in stalking me, contact me and I will come over to your front yard and you can put your cards on the table. Me too! No problem. I am at your mercy, call me and I will be there. Call me like a dog and I will come that way, ever so humble. Do call me to meet up face to face.
OO,
Wrote a email to Tony ‘spaining why I didn’t dig his blog and how I thought the Voice was a ghost of what it was when Mailer was there.
Guess you could call the Golden Age of the Village Voice 😉
But I respected his right per freedom of the press to publish what he wanted
Anyway he seemed cool in his response to me. No make wrong or anything. So even though I disagree with his view of Scientology. I still respect him.
That said.
His commenters are usually the hard ass variety of Scientology “critics” ala OCB ,ARS and ESMB who brook no opposition to their POV.
Funny they seem like the current breed of Scientologist 😉
So maybe it’s not Tony at all but his commenters that have a problem with your comments.
Just a thought.
I mean the guy has an audience to please.
Me I just stay away from his blog.
I mean I got better ways to waste my time.
Bury, I think it’s just a timing thing. The comments do not post instantly here like they do on disqus.
LRH also never figured out how to train Super power rundown auditors without Key to Life course, which is his solution for training auditors. Dave Miscavige does as he now apparently trains them without having to do KTL but having to do “Basics” instead, releasing it to the public before staff as per LRH intention and strategy.
Over 20 years ago when the Cruiser & BFF arrived for his training and auditing at the Int Base, he did KTL and LOC along with the academy levels, while getting his processing Bridge. I guess it didn’t work out well for him.
Sinar, you must be talking about some earlier universe … lol.
Good points on the KTL/SP reqs and the added/invented Basics.
Sinar,
Yes I remember the evolution that was supposed to occur on KTL/LOC, RP and Super Power since I did a short gig at NWC (this was back in the days when Technical Terminals were trusted for their technical expertise. A totally different scene now.) which was staff first then the public.
There is nothing mysterious about the RD. According to RJ 30 it parallels Power and was conceived back in ’78 as a means of giving Dn Clears benefits similar to V and VA since Clears couldn’t be run on power or power plus.
A program was started in ’78 to train the first auditors on Super Power which didn’t go so well because the auditors sent TRs basically sucked. So the Pro TRs pilot was started and Ron did an eval on the scene and also found that not only could they not do TRs but their ability to study wasn’t that great either. Thus the World Out of Comm eval was done and the bright idea was to incorporate Clay Table Processing with Method 9 word clearing as part of TR training which became the KTL/LOC.
After that NWC’s priority became piloting the KTL/LOC instead of exporting Super Power and it was put on the “back burner” which was eventually completed some time in the late ’80’s.
I was pretty much auditing or FESing full time at AO by then so I never kept track of things after that but from what I recall was after the pilot was completed they started some half assed effort to get staff through KTL/LOC which got side tracked in 1990 when they fully released it to the public which as you can expect was a total disaster because most of the staff hadn’t done KTL/LOC.
Seems Dave or whoever is running his sorry ass has found another usual solution to solve this problem of KTL/LOC being a prerec to Super Power by having people do objectives and TRs like forever then putting them either on Super Power training or Processing which will be a dismal failure.
As I wrote in an earlier comment.
If it was that simple Super Power would have been released in the original 6 weeks it was scheduled to be released according to RJ 30.
145 million to 200 million to make it possible to deliver Super Power and every customer put on wait for over 15 years, and only one floor of this new metropolis is actually used to deliver Super Power? I must be going (yet again) to that weird unholy irrational place in my mind again that thinks this is some kind of outpoint.
Sorry, I just keep going back to the math on this. If one floor only, out of seven is for delivering Super Power, right there only one out of every seven dollars donated wasn’t even needed for the release of Super Power. So, people were actually donating money for other purposes?
I mean, I can see the fraud right there.
I am embarrassed to say that I was a Superpower Fundraiser from 2002-2004. This IS fraud! We took in WAY more money than this building cost to build. The 1st year that I was a Fundraiser for LRH’s Birthday, our target was 23 Million. That was going to finish the building. We made that target. I was so happy about this until I realized that I wouldn’t have a “job” anymore. When I mentioned this to David Light, he told me not to worry about it, we would be fundraising for a long time. And the SO has been taking in money for Superpower up to last week.
For the three LRH’s Birthdays that I was a fundraiser, I was told that we did make our target of 23-25 million dollars, in one week. How many years did this fundraising go on? Every week we brought in MILLIONS of dollars.
How many hardworking people donated to Superpower and went into massive debt, Bankruptcty, etc to give money to this project to save the world? Make it a better place.
I NEVER saw any accounting nor yearly statement on where this money was going to. Neither did the Public.
When we would ask the Public for money they would always ask us the following questions:
1. When will Super Power be released
2. How much more money was needed
3. What was the pre requisites
4. How much would the Rundowns cost
Our answer:
1. Soon, we just needed to finish the fundraising, train auditors and get the special equipment built.
2. 25 Million (This NEVER changed)
3. Anyone could do it as long as they were not in the middle of a major action.
4.No Info until it was released.
My opinion is that there was much more than 200 Million raised for “Superpower”. Never in any promotional materials, events or meetings was there ever anything mentioned about the Superpower Funds going to anything other than Superpower.
So one floor of the building is for the Superpower Rundowns???? Class Action Suit Anyone?????
Wow! That was very interesting! I admire your honesty and courage. No need to beat yourself up, we all who were on staff or helped had very good intentions. It all makes for good karma.
I spoke with some Kool Aid drinking staff and mentioned that 3 times the cost of building Super Power was regged out of people and that no one knows where those extra millions of dollars went. This KA drinking person said, “To the 4th dynamic programs that help the planet.” These guys have no idea that Davie is pocketing the money and that he is a millionaire if not billionaire from all this fleecing.
I’m new to the subject of Scientology. I have just been reading about it online. It sounds like the Student Hat now is like what used to be called the primary rundown. Am I correct? Thank you for your help.
Bill, not quite. The Primary Rundown came out in the mid 70s after the Student Hat, which came out first in 1971 and essentially consisted of a new way to go through the Student Hat materials which was to clear EVERY SINGLE WORLD in the study materials including the lectures and then study them again. I did this course, having done the Student Hat previously in 1972. The PRD eventually fell out of use for some reason I can’t remember right now. Of course I had to do the Golden Age of Tech re-do of the Student Hat materials ten years ago and I guess everyone has to re-do this again (but … don’t think it will be free as it was last time …. ha)
Thank for the reply, Joe. I am still not sure what the difference is. To me, your explanation of the Primary Rundown sounds the same as Mr. Rinder’s explanation of the new way to do the Studant Hat course. I appreciate your help. Can you explain it any other way?
Primary rundown – a) word clearing of all subjects one has studied, and b) a list of all words used in the student hat course, and the student hat or study tapes.
Student hat course – a course with written materials (usually early on)
Student hat or study tapes – eight lectures on a later course on learning a subject.
Please see immediately below for more detail. My understanding is that the Primary RD is done following the student hat course, but before the later course with the study tapes or student hat lectures; my view of it all is that this is easy stuff, easier the better one’s vocabulary and study habits are.
Bill – Almost. Nice try. Flunk. (Just kidding. It’s a good question.) The student hat is a brief summary course on how to study – what materials one should have at hand, for example. The student hat tapes are I believe eight lectures which expand on the subject of how to get your arms around a subject. The primary rundown is a) word clearing by subjects one may have studied anywhere, on a meter, and b) word-clearing a list of words, in alphabetical order, used on (I believe) all the materials and lectures which are included in the student hat and are on the study tapes. (Necessarily, many of those words appear in other lectures as well.) The whole idea is simple, that if one doesn’t understand a word, then look it up in the dictionary and get a clear understanding of it. That is not a new Scientology concept, although some are stupid enough to try to ridicule it. The “new” aspect in Scientology is a systematic approach to understanding words. For example, the list of words in the primary rundown (it is only several pages long), starts with words such as “a” “an” “at” some of which people do not bother to ever look up in a dictionary in their entire lives because they are “too short to bother with.” Best I recall, depending on the dictionary, there are some 32 separate definitions of the word “of” and having at least looked at them all is new data. The idea is to breeze through courses and lectures and understand all of it, or be an “A+” student, in more conventional context. That should give you some notion of the “primary rundown” as distinguished from the student hat course, and the lecture series. It’s easy stuff, it is designed to be easy, and it’s applicable to all subjects I can think of immediately – even plumbing or mechanics where you are expected to be able to identify a “flange” “nipple” “spanner wrench” “socket wrench” “extension” “pipe wrench” “lock nut” “knuckle buster” and so on.
A+ on explanation, Carcha! I too did the PRD, ’73 and can attest to the potency of fully grasping how an entire universe opens up to a person, who was previously barred by the ‘solid’ barrier of a ‘mis’ or ‘not’ understood word!
Indeed, Ron himself has described ‘words,’as being “the result of man trying to find out what the universe consists of.”
BTW, hope you are are ‘on top of the world,’ as you get ready for another ‘popcorn’ overload of blog excitement this winter, too! 🙂
Best in ARC, Calvin.
The new student hat format is utter stupidity.
Frankly, the thing was already too long as most of the “study tapes” could be safely discarded from the checksheet with zero loss of needful tech.
Learning all about LRH’s now largely obsolete hobby of photography may be a charming diversion for some, but most could do without it.
Moreover, not that’s its not already totally dead, but this action further kills auditer traning in all the Orgs around the world. Student Hat is now another Key To LIfe. So damn long that most part time students will take YEARS to finish the damn thing.
Yet one more brake applied to the tech delivery train by The Oily One. To stay in the cult now requires such a heavy effort of self-imposed stupidity that I dont know how it can be done without ones head imploding.
Moonshot, I respectfully disagree about the photography nomenclature on the SH course. I think it should be there. At first I cursed having to look up these words but doing so raised my confront of MUs and gave me practice in word clearing tech. For beginners, children and foreigners there was the Basic Study Manual with very pared down streamlined study tech data.
I went through all the study tapes in three days, part time. I got all of it. The parts about photography are an example of a necessary example. It could have been about aeronautics, and the same important point would have been made, but few have the background to grasp the physics of aeronautics, yet pretty much everyone has seen a photo (good or bad, B&W or “dayglo”), and has seen a camera. My guess is most people have had their photo taken. That whole section is what? maybe fifteen minutes?
The Basic Study Manual covered all the bases and could be done in a couple of days.
Most of the study tech is on the tapes, the course pack’s HCO Bs/PLs are not substitutes.
The beat goes on. Shelly knew the relationship was doomed ever since she first discovered that Davey could only last 8 minutes. Undoubtedly, Lou has had the same cognition. And Tom?
Bad link
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?33979-Congrats-to-Marty-amp-Mosey-Rathbun&p=878665#post878665
Completely OT.
It has been announced that Marty and Mosey have a baby boy.
Congatulations to both of them
http://www.forum.exscn.net/sho…
Pretty sure 7th Floor is COB’s personal floor. On the plans I worked on he had his own elevator, full movie theater, audio listening room, his office, lounge, conference room, COB staff offices and all of these are double insulated so that yelling, screaming and people being thrown across tables or up against walls cannot be heard between rooms or floors.
6th Floor might be CMO CW?
Mark just wanted to say you did a splendid job in the Brian Seymour video. Bravo! Thanks for everything you keep on doing!
plus 1000
Hey, you’re both heroes to me. Keep fighting the good fight, guys!
Brian, can you post a link so we can see that video? I don’t know where to find it.
SNICKER!!!!
snort !
Oh course, Mr. McGreedy pigs the whole floor.
What no tanning bed???? I guess he needs more donations for that!! 🙂
Yes, Marc, but more importantly: are there copper rods he can grip onto to ground him??