Oh woohoo, they’re fundraising in the Valley again!
This is what the person who sent this to me commented — it sums things up perfectly:
I love their little comments: “This event will not be more than an hour and 15 minutes because that’s how we roll” — why not “roll” for only 15 minutes then? There is absolutely NOTHING you have to report about what the IAS is doing about the pandemic, because there is nothing. Maybe a few slides of the Decon7 brigade in S. Africa. But by now, everyone has seen them a dozen times. You could just come right out and save everyone time and say: “Look, we need to survive, so we need commissions. You are expected to give money to the IAS. Why? Because the COB says you need to. If you don’t we will make you feel guilty and probably start some ethics handling on you. So, make it easy on yourself, hand over whatever you have and save us having to drag this out. That’s all.”
and what in the hell do they mean when they say they may have become a little “gangsta”?? Oh yeah, sure looks like it from those cool head shots. And “hit us back” is super cool.
Once again, evidence the delusion is strong in scientology.
Video leak.
Do want!
Now, that would be, ehrmm, gangsta’
To be fair Mike, they are a criminal organization, hence the “gangsta”. At least they’re being forthcoming…
Charlie, they also are bing a bit truthful, for once, with the “Gangsta’. Accidentally, I’m sure. they know not what they say.
“…we may have become a little gansta’…”
– Say what? Did she mean to say “gangsta”?
“Additionally, you can attend from the comfort of your home.”
– And even better news is I can also not attend from the comfort of my home.
This ludicrous gangsta-rolling fundraising coolness makes sense in the context of how much Dave Miscavige needs lots of cash flowing into his slush fund so that he can renovate Scientology properties around the globe to hide in, like he is evidently doing at Saint Hill. What a better way to avoid or escape the process servers who can’t find him on U.S. ground for the lawsuits that will keep coming his way. Funny how when Hubbard went into hiding, he abandoned his U.K. home, went to sea, then hid at an obscure ranch in California. Ole Dave is following suit, having multiple hiding places. But thanks to the most recent Daily Mail article, journalists will be scouting out TC and DM at their new British digs. Oops. Will need to find more places to hide, so that IAS money will come in handy to give dear leader the lux life he is addicted to.
Karen. Right. I am just trying to imagine the time (hoping it comes soon) when we will be here trying to guess wherenhe could be hiding.
Loosing, my guess,as always, is that he’s hiding in the bottle, possibly some place in Bulgravia or Columbia, hichever has the most trustworthy officials: those who STAY bought, as determined by an expertly executed survey, of course.
Jere. Yes. He has probably already an escape plan. Here in Italy we had big mafia bosses full of money and power but hidden like cockroaches in a basement for years. What a life.
But they at least kept caring in their own way for the people and families under them.
I’d like to ask about the picture at the top of today’s blog.
Is there a real building somewhere that looks like that?
Does the phrase, “Scientology Sucks” really exist on some building somewhere or was that just added to the picture for some humor?
That is the Valley Org.
And that was “Reckless Ben” who shone those images on Big Blue, CCInt, the HGB and Valley Org. You can search the videos on YouTube.
“Is there a real building that looks like that?”
“That is the Valley Org.”
Answer to Skyler: Yes, thousands of them on highways all across America.
Answer to Mike: Ugly building. Gotta say. Non comprendo how or why 15 million was needed for this… ugly thing!
It wasn’t need. One mil in the building, 14 mil in Davy’s pocket 😂
I prefer being robbed in the usual manner. The guy that held a knife to my throat and. the one who stole my car did not insult me by asking permission.
Then again, the Church did not ask permission to kidnap my wife when they sent me to all but certain death.
Bill i agree. I am a bit traditionalist too. I prefer being robbed with a knife or a gun in my face. Few words and is over.
Instead here the treat is about eternity and others life’s and they talk for hours! Furthermore what you have in your wallet isn’t never enough for them.
Jere and Loosing, you two are funny, and, yes, there is indeed a proper way to mug someone.
Allow me to share that long ago, shortly after I moved to a big city I was mugged once in the vestibule of the little walk up building in which I then resided. I had returned home from work and had opened the outer vestibule door and was about to get my mail, when just as the door was about to close a man appeared and pushed it open again. He rushed in, crowded me up against the mailboxes and demanded all the money I had in my purse and wallet which I believe was about $30 or so at the time with no credit cards. I emptied my wallet immediately and showed him the cash; he grabbed it and fled. Shaken, out $30 but unharmed, I can proudly say that I was mugged quickly and humanely in the traditional, respectable manner with Standard Mugger Tech. and I’m a better person for it.
Aqua. Wow you had a quite nice experience I would say!
Do you know what? I just realized that they also act as ‘spiritual terrorists’, in addition to taking money in exchange for fried air.
They don’t need to use a knife anymore.
Do well!
My mugging was interesting… It was in Detroit while strolling down the street too naive to know better than carry a purse in that area… purse snatcher drug addict did the ole grab n go. The problem was I held on so tightly it knocked me to the ground. Nothing hurt but my pride. There was nothing useful in it so hehehe to him.
Loosing, I was only mugged once so I’m no expert on being mugged but it appears that given the possibility of being mentally scarred as well as the physical dangers to life and limb they can entail, Ann’s and my experiences with being mugged could almost be deemed enjoyable, relatively speaking 🙂
Aqua (and Ann) isn’t a nice experience to be mugged. What can be positive in my opinion is the experience in itself to be acknowledged as such. Best way to put it in file instead of having it always on the desk.
Honestly, this is the best thing to happen to rank-and-file Scios since I don’t know when. Virtual IAS briefings and fund raisers? Yes! Don’t doubt there are clams out there that are thinking that all they need to do is log on to whatever app they’re using, then go make themselves a sandwich and watch a few re-runs of King of Queens. Sweet. Their attendance is noted, and if there are any interactive functions that they’ve missed and was noticed, you just say “I tried but it didn’t work.”
I’m betting there are at least a few who will do more than just think about how to game this online stunt. They’ll figure out a way to beat the whole IAS online system. Do not doubt me.
Quite right Chris.
It is so much more difficult to apply high pressure to someone who is sitting in their own home with the doors locked and communicating over the phone. (or over the computer using ZOOM or something similar).
The biggest threat that usually exist in these “regging” situations is that they won’t allow you to leave until you give them money. But in this situation, you can always just tell them, “please hold” and then put the phone down and never pick it up again. (or something similar).
Yep. Those fuckers are TOAST if they think they are gonna get any green from you. (Or anyone else for that matter).
Oops. It just occurred to me that I may have tipped the hand of some IAS resisters. The last thing I want to do is wise up some slow-learning IAS thugs. They think they’re smarter than they are. Perhaps best to let sleeping dolts lie.
Chris:
Don’t worry about it. If they do a rollback and find out that it came from you, the reg will be shot for taking advice from SPs like you.
I’m not sure whether it is better to let sleeping dolts lie.
On the one hand, as long as they continue, they provide us with a good source of comedy – something funny to laugh about.
But, unfortunately, on the other hand, it would be best to put an end to this scam as soon as possible because every day they continue to run their scam, they do great harm to many people. Despite the lies they tell, they continue to destroy lives by forcing people to give them more money than they can afford which results in their bankruptcy. They continue to force people to disconnect from their families and thereby destroy those families as a result.
All these wrongs, as well as the many other wrongs they perpetrate every day are equivalent to very serious crimes and the perpetrators really do belong in prison.
In addition, the families that have been destroyed really do deserve some help in reuniting and deprogramming the brainwashed.
My final point here is that they really do deserve to have their tax exempt status revoked. It is due to this tax exempt status they are able to do so many of the great harms they do.
I know that most everyone reading this post already knows all about what I have said. But I feel it is important to keep beating the drum so that more people see these things in the hope that someone who has the power to end these things will finally act and terminate this scam everywhere – for once and for all.
If they’re using Zoom or WebEx, minders can see if people are paying attention to the screen. What they can’t tell, is what on the screen attendees are paying attention to – they could be reading this blog or some other critical forum (to lend a hand to any IAS resisters, plus UTRs, etc.).
I wonder if they are surreptitiously pulling people into orgs for sec-checking just to try to keep a lid on that that sort of disobedience.
And, I wouldn’t be surprised if Scientology tried to roll out some customized version of that sort of conference software, that gave them additional controls, like they tried with their Net Nanny software back in the early days of the internet.
Um Chris, no way in Zenus great kingdom of eternity are any true believers watching King of Queens. The show that the super evil S/P Leah stars in, I don’t think the ethics dept. would approve.
“That’s how we roll”?
“..gangsta..”??
Wow. I’m literally embarrassed for them. Morons.
“Hit us back…cuz we may be a little gangsta” OMG I cringed when I read this. It reeks of middle age out of the loop parents trying to use jargon to sound hip and cool to their young kids. You failed at it.
Groovy comment, Cindy. You are just so Boss and I can dig it.
Their usage of “hip” vernacular is just grody (grotty) to the max.
Yes, and I see the irony that I use “hip”, and outdated word, to describe their outdated words. lol Well fer sure! (my Valley Girl talk there.)
Cindy I didn’t even give your usage of hip and cool a second thought – they’ve become such a part of the vernacular. While groovy, boss, dig it and grotty have kind of fallen by the wayside as too hippie-ish. But you’re right in pointing out the irony (which I totally missed until you pointed it out).
The beauty in this is that you and I can see what we’re doing and laugh within at ourselves. Meanwhile the $cilons can’t see what they’re doing so all the laughter is coming from the outside.
Stay cool. (Insert big smiley face here.)
Thanks Phillip, and to you too.
I was thinking the same exact thing. Sometimes I use jargon, but only to be funny or make people laugh.
But they seriously think they’re cool and hip. So flippin’ embarrassing. They always make themselves look stupid.
Hey Katherine. I got a good laugh from your post calling them morons. I think there is a reason why morons use language they believe will make them appear to be cool even though they don’t understand that language.
I’m not certain what that reason may be. But it is almost certain that when someone uses language they don’t understand, the meaning will not be what they hope it will be and it will indeed reveal them to be morons.
Thank you for the laugh.
Lol… you’re quite welcome. I laughed out loud when I read their ridiculous attempt to appear cool.
And honestly, what kind of “church” says such things? I’m not a fan of any organized religion, but I’m pretty sure most of them don’t go around using ludicrous phrases to try to make themselves look cool or “with it”.
Next, they’ll be claiming they’re “down wit it”. Xenu help us.
Just another example of “If you have to work THAT hard to seem cool, you never will be cool. Even at nearly 70 years old, I recognise that they are trying to use slang they don’t understand a whit.
It is not my claim to make predictions but based on what is seen mainly on this blog and also on Tony Ortega’s, the situation for them is certainly NOT the most prosperous.
And this based on what has emerged so far, although they try to tighten the lines to show everything is ok and avoid bad news to reach outside.
In my opinion what is still hidden is far worse and we will come to know it gradually.
The situation caused by the pandemic is far from being resolved.
In Italy for example we are recently in what they call phase 2. But here and there there are apparently new cases of infection. And there is a risk of new restrictions if this gets worse.
My point is that the cult probably is already beyond a definitive point of no return.
Loosing… thanks for keeping us up on what’s going on in Italy! Keeping that in my prayers and thoughts often. It’s interesting to hear because you guys dealt with this earlier than we and you guys were the first country to honestly and openly put your case data out there. So many people are getting frustrated with staying home and more scared of the economic impact than the medical/health implications of reopening too soon, such that many politicians are feeling the need to give in. I can understand both sides, but have always been an “err on the side of caution” type of person. So I think whatever happens with you guys over there will hopefully help guide what we do. I truly believe that if not for your country and the information coming from there, we’d be in a far worse condition than we are.
I think the cult is happy to jump onto the bandwagon of “fake news” and “it’s all political…” because that better serves their purpose of getting people back into the Org where they can start the pressure with, “You guys have had 2 months at home… you must have gotten some gov’t money or tax refunds! And since we are the only ones with the tech to keep this under control, you must give everything you have and then borrow more…!” So I truly do hope this gives many enough of a break to see even a glimpse of what life could be like without co$ dictating how every moment should be lived and help to free more people!
Jenyfurrr. Thank you so much.
This is my personal opinion but 2 weeks of more quarantene would have been perfect.
People met again cheering that the closedown was over etc.
Today news (to be fully checked) say that we started to have again some more contagions.
I will report as needed.
This virus is a bad stuff. Despite they call it a collective histeria. Personal needs shouldn’t be the driving the essence of this moment.
I really believe that the cult has entered a no turning point.
The leadership isn’t willing to help orgs and members. They just keep asking money.
The cult will definitely jump on the bandwagon of the lockdowns being politically motivated. The lockdown and the social distancing requirements in the wealthy states have to be putting the last nails in the cult’s assorted org coffins. The President has threatened to “override” any governor not reopening churches immediately. Not sure if a president can legally do that but this is what he’s saying he’ll do. The orgs are toast without people being able to come in. Auditing can’t be done with masks on. To survive at least minimally, to merely scrape by and at least keep the lights on, they have to get social distancing lifted in the orgs. The cult will jump on this bandwagon, alright! By any means necessary including, I believe, financially – very much so – they’ll be contributing heavily to making sure all the right button get pressed so that churches reopen and money will play a big part in their support, I think. My opinion.
I have an unrelated question that perhaps a former scientologist can answer. When Miscavige called the pandemic response “planetary bullbait,” implying high levels of manipulation involved, doesn’t that admit that bullbaiting people is a bad thing to do? Why else would the leader of CoS use “bullbait” as a kind of slur? Every time I see the phrase I think, so he agrees that the scientology “tech” is manipulative.
Cat W. What miscavige means in few words is “we are going to clear a planet and they try to disturb us and get us distracted from that purpose”.
Bullbait in Scn is a communication exercise. One is sit there and must have no reactions. Meanwhile the other person does the coach and try to provoke him or make him to laugh or does what he can to make the other to lose that state of no reaction.
In fact many members when they talk to you have eyes wide open fixing you, forced smile, concerned to laugh or react in an unwanted way if you say something that brings them away from their intention (make you to do something they want) etc,. In conclusion many look very unnatural.
Hope it helped.
Thanks. I kind of figured it was something like that, but I can never shake how it makes it seem as if bullbaiting is something bad someone does. Which it is. Verbal abuse is built into the supposed tech.
Cat W. Thank you. Scn is an overall abuse. If you are a ‘never in’ this is just great. This cult sucks your life. It infiltrates your thoughts and start controlling your living.
I just a money worship.
Sorry Loosing but if they look unnatural that is a FLUNK! LRH clearly states that TRs have to be ” natural, relaxed and friendly.” It took me 500 hours to get to that standard. But then, I was dying of AIDS at the time. For the first 100 hours of OTTR0 I would fall out of the chair after 30 seconds, the fatigue was so bad. Look at it this way: How far does your car go when it runs out of gas? Not very fucking far. I hsd lost so many blood cells to HIV that there was not much left fuelling the body. I had to work out how to get clear of the body and I have done no OT Levels. The Church has LRH tech to better people, but God help them if they actually better them. If they had not bettered me than I would be safely dead and I would not be guilty of overworking OSA execs by making them read this comment.
If they really bettered people they would be TOAST because you have to be pretty unintelligent (like I was) to not see the many outpoints. But at the same time they (perhaps accidently) do some tech right and better someone.
My purpose for the rest of this life is to make those cockarosches sorry that they did not finish the cycle of action of finishing me off.
But then LRH said that one of the characteristics of an SP is that they cannot finish a cycle of action.
I can fully appreciate your stated purpose for the rest of your life – “to make those cockarosches sorry that they did not finish the cycle of action of finishing you off.”
I have been thinking about that for a while now and I’m not sure if anyone could ever make them feel sorry. The reason I say that is that the rat (aka the fake pope) is the only person who really benefits from all the cash they receive. Almost zero cash is given out to anyone else – except maybe for some of the regges that get a tiny percentage of money they have a hand in bringing in. I may be mistaken but I believe they only get a tiny bit of money. For the post part the only other way the rest of the people feel sorry or feel happy is when the teeny poobah gives them any kind of praise or beats up on them.
It seems to me – and this is just my opinion – the best way that any of us can make them feel sorry is to arrange for the destruction of the scam – either by seeing people arrested, convicted and imprisoned for their terrible crimes. Alternatively, arranging for the revocation of their tax exempt status could be a big step in forcing the scam into bankruptcy or some equivalent problem where it will have to be shut down.
They may never be sorry about their treatment of any individual. But if and when the scam is made to go “kaput”, they will be sorry when they think about the time they spent as a slave to the scam and what they got out of that and what price they paid. When they think about how they wasted a huge period of their life and got essentially nothing in return but lost all of the opportunities that other people had, I’m pretty sure they will feel very sorry about that and …
I surely do hope that happens.
Don’t sell yourself OR your intelligence short, Bill. Keep in mind: YOU got out. YOU left the cult. On that point alone your intelligence surpasses those Still In. Just on that point alone, your analytical ability is superior to any of theirs. Barring actual true, innocence, if they’re so smart, what are they doing allowing themselves to be continually fleeced and financially exploited by an obviously criminal ruthless out-exchange organization? If their perception is so high, why can’t they perceive how blatantly they’re being lied to? If they’re so intelligent, why can’t they see what anyone paying even halfway attention can see? No, Bill you’re FAR above ANY Still In with regard to analytical ability. Seriously.
I know them both, well I did back in the 80’s. I liked them but I was brainwashed then too. Sad.
I can KINDA see how a stupid staff member in some isolated org in the middle of nowhere can fall for the lie “Your org is the only one not booming!” line of B.S. But, Glosup & Welch have been operating out of the LA area for about 100 years and KNOW that ALL of the Orgs in what is the center of the LARGEST Scamologist area of the world are ALL empty.
I can’t imagine what the hell goes through what is left of their mind when they jump up and puke this diarrhea…
Wynski, I am constantly wondering the same thing about the staff in my own urban area! I don’t know how they do it. For the life of me I don’t know how they manage to delude themselves about the expansion of Scientology. I’d love to understand! Once I understand something, I can let it go. I may not agree with it – I may strongly disagree, but if I understand it I can just have it be there. Its when I don’t or can’t understand something that I stay sort of stuck to it, mentally. So, yes, I’m in this club; The How The Hell Do They Do It Club. How DO they delude themselves, year in and year out? What do they TELL themselves? How do they twist and turn away from what is so obvious? How do they MAKE themselves not see? How do they do it? Maybe someday I’ll understand.
AS these two are BT pickers and flickers of LONG duration maybe spending years having to delude yourself about that melts your brain Aqua.
Yes, I suppose lying to oneself and lying to others, year in and year out, can be just as habit forming as anything else. Sad, that they believe they’re on the road to spiritual freedom when in fact habitual lying to oneself and others about very important matters is a sort of prison…there’s no worse prison than this type. Sad.
There’s NO chance that they’ll change.
They’ll be fundraising until “management” has been hauled away to atone for their crimes —and quite possibly beyond. They’re forbidden from changing SOP by KSW. What astounds me is how few ran away from the Twit’s obsessive alteration of everything with as feenble excuses as he used. Oh, Tubby didn’t care enough to have a flunky proofread the galley proofs of his written works? There’s a bridge you’ll LOVE if that makes sense. Professional publishers have departments of dedicated proofreaders, DM. The only SPs altering LRH’s words and intentions are You and your minions.
GANGSTA.
Wow!
Finally truth in advertising from the cult that only tells “shore stories” and commits fraud every day.
Walk down Grape Street in Watts and proclaim how ‘Gangsta’ you are. And then start asking the locals there for money.
Pathetic, these two. “Gangsta”…OMG. And these are “church workers”. Deeply thankful to be no longer associated with any of them. Best thing that ever happened to me was being rejected by this “church”. Thank you, God!
There is an Occult myth that Satan was a real person. On OT VIII Hubbard affirmed the myth. But that does not mean that Hubbard did not become the personified Satan. Now the Satanic Scientology Cult operates on lies. What else would you expect from Satan? In the Bible, Satan offers Jesus all of the riches in the world. Jesus declines because he knows Satan is bluffing. In the real world of Scientology, Satan takes all of the riches of the world from its members to support the myth of OT which Hubbard lied about.
The fallen angel has no power except that which WE grant to him.
Love this! Absolute truth.
As for how it tangibly relates to this cult of the liar… (not THE liar… a wannabe)
The key to helping people find freedom from the coercion and even (Sea Org) enslavement under the co$ masquerading as a church is for those inside to begin to recognize that truth… its only as powerful as that bestowed on it by those inside. The undoing began decades ago as one person here, another there got out and had the courage to speak out… then that grew and now it is reaching exponential growth because the wolf in sheep’s clothing has lost its ability to hide its true nature. All thanks to those that started and everyone who’s picked up that baton since!
I’m looking over a cult hangover
That I overlooked before
First comes the pressure to drive you insane
Second is ethics to keep you in chains
No need explaining the one remaining
Is somebody I abhor
I’m looking over a cult hangover
That I overlooked before
What a lovely musical interlude! Lol
LOL and well done, Jazzman!
Aqua and Mike: When I was on the Freewinds I did not worry if Scn was expanding. Had I failed to get my job done the ship would have been unable to sail or possibly even sunk. And if there were any flaps in the Engine Room while DM was aboard my fate would have been far worse than death.
I had to get my post into a higher condition in order to get the right to die. I believe that I somehow managed to do that.zzz
I have a confession to make ah ah Sirs. Had Scientology not bettered me in some ways I would not even have the confront to post on this blog. Before I got into Scientology I used to go into a McDonalds for a burg and sit facing the wall.so that I would not have to see anyone else coming in.
My purpose for the rest of this life, as long or short as it may be, is to ensure that those fuckers who worked to ensure my death pay for the fact that they failed to get their product. It is their own fault that I am still here to fuck with them. I am not pissed wih them for what they did to me; I am pissed because they held my wife against her will for 6 months and I did not know if I would ever see her again.
Bill, welcome to the club. The skills I learned in Scientology helped me to search out the truth, confront the truth and leave this organization. Lots of us have shared similar stories with the bottom line being that what was learned IN Scientology helped them LEAVE Scientology and if they hadn’t learned what they learned when IN, they wouldn’t have had the courage and fortitude and common sense to LEAVE.
I understand that you are pissed, and why.
Look at it this way, Bill; YOU “obnosed”. YOU “observed what you observed” and didn’t lie to yourself about it. THAT is “applying the tech”.
It doesn’t seem possible anymore (if ever it were possible) to APPLY the tech of Scientology and, at the same time, REMAIN IN Scientology!
Aqua: You said it all.
I could not have said it better.
Like Hiler, who would have starved in Vienna before World War I had Jewish shopkeepers not bought his paintings that no-one else wanted?; The “Church” could not have continued to exist without the people that they now call ” SPs” For tens of thousands of hours I busted my ass to keep that boat afloat. If I was a Christian; I would be required to ” Turn the Other Cheek” or forgive them.
However I was in Scientology a lot longer than I was a Christian so I will follow LRH when he said:
“In time I may even love my enemies but only after I have made them powerless to stop us”
I am not really pissed off. Nobody (excpt maybe DM) can be pissed off after 18 years.
Absolutely right, Aqua.
They go to all this trouble ( or maybe it is mostly PR) of ensuring that all SO members have 2-1/2 hours of (enhancement) per day ( 5 hours if you are on the RPF (I never was) but in reality I probably only got my 2-1/2 for 3 or 4 years total of the 23 I spent there. They say that the Tech and Policy is for application but I only really got into Ethics trouble for applying policy exactly as written by LRH. You see, when you do what policy says, you will sometimes be making someone wrong. And the Highest Crime there is is to make a senior wrong. And when what they are doing violates LRH and you call them on it with the exact policy, boy are you really making them wrong because they are being made wrong by LRH, they are being made wrong by proven facts and their only available response is to destroy the messenger. So I would write yet another report based on HCOPL Job Endangerment Chits which states ” if you are threatened for writing a Job Endangerment Chit, you write a second report based on the threat.
When I did that, it was like announcing that I was at DEFCON 1. There is more but my phone gets enturbulated from this stuff and screws up and I lose it all if I write too much. The last comment I wrote 4 times before I got it on the blog
Gangsta? It is slang right?
Okay, so if it means:
gangster, mobster, bandit, gunman, outlaw, highwayman, brigand, criminal, dishonest, mafioso, delinquent, thief, etc, etc.
than I have it clear, it fits perfectly to the context and subject.
I bet they’ve been missing their regular shake downs for protection money.
OMG that is so true! Organized Crime has nothing on Scientology. I would have never guessed when I got in back in 1981 that DM would be running protection rackets on the world through the orgs! He doesn’t even pretend to deliver services anymore just goes straight for the shakedown!
Loreli, he learned to go “straight for the shakedown!” from Hubtard when he shook down the Mission Holders.