This is what the most senior executive in the Western United States has devolved into.
Begging people to do backlogged filing in one of her orgs.
In fact, begging “OT’s” who have “such amazing abilities to create effects across the dynamics.” Though apparently those effects do not include managing to get people into the org or enough people on staff to do the filing.
The bait? A personal commendation… but then again doesn’t seem like a commendation from the CF In Charge for WUS would carry much weight. But then again, commendations aren’t worth the paper they are printed on held up against a verbal declare.
Oh, how pathetic this is.
Dear Gertude,
As an OT at the top of the Bridge your ability to create effects across the dynamics is tremendous. As such you are a vital part of making the Silicon Valley Ideal Org a reality and that is why I am coming to you personally.
The renovations are on track for the org to complete and Grand Open in February and that means the rest of the org has to be done as well.
Key to the org being Ideal is an Ideal CF. In HCO PL 15 Nov 74 II CFs, ARC BREAKS IN
LRH said:
Wrong addresses; failure to file a CF up-to-date and keep it that way;
violations of Letter Reg policy where the folder – up-to-date – is to
hand when one writes the letter; . . . never writing to it; sending
out bad promo to it; or just not having a CF, all contribute to a
messed up field.
A fully on policy Central Files is a vital necessity for the org to operate and that is why I am writing to you. I need you get into the org, bring your friends and family and get the org CF Ideal. Doing so is key to reaching all the people in the field, bringing them into the org and getting them up the Bridge. A Clear South Bay requires a fully operational CF.
Right now the math is 200 man hours a day in the org, upgrading the Central Files and that will just make the target date of Feb.
Let me know what schedule you can do on this below and send it in.
I am coming in on these days of the week:
Mon __ Tues __ Wed __ Thurs __ Fri __ Sat __ Sun __
I will put in ___ hours for the week.
The Files I/C will tell me everyone who attends, and I will personally commend those who volunteer. So I want to see your name on the list!
The Mountain View address is: 2334 Walsh Ave, Santa Clara.
Looking forward to hearing about major accomplishments!
ML,
Vicki Shantz
Commanding Officer
Continental Liaison Office
Sadly the Org’s are filled with PTS’ers, R/sers and idiot with MU’s, who cannot read policy let alone apply.
I actually witnessed Day Org scum simply opne the door of a CF and throw the files inside.
They do not know Senior Datum!
How does it feel to be more intelligent, morally superior and more informed than anyone on earth? (You also have GREAT labels for people…)
You must wake up in the morning with the wonderful anticipation of demonstrating your superiority in all things all day.
How does it feel to be more intelligent, morally superior and more informed than anyone on earth? (You also have GREAT labels for people…)
You must wake up in the morning with the wonderful anticipation of demonstrating your superiority in all things all day.
Oh, Hiatus62 you slimed back. Hey, can you point us to some (or even one) active PRO scamology blog? Foolproof (nor anyone else ) could find any to post on.
I don’t understand- if the orgs are dead and there are no (or few) new public joining and even the existing member numbers are shrinkjng…then where is all this paperwork that needs to be filed coming from? Is this left over from years ago?
Barbara, much of it is returned, undeliverable mail from all the mailings done centrally. The other major part is when they send their address list to the USPS asking for forwarding addresses.
“Grand Open” is a verb now?
Time for a quote from someone who knew about these things:
“The idea has occurred to me that if one wanted to crush, to annihilate a man utterly, to inflict on him the most terrible of punishments so that the most ferocious murderer would shudder at it and dread it beforehand, one need only give him work of an absolutely, completely useless and irrational character.”
‘The House of the Dead’ by Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Nice quote.
I shudder to think of a “Clear South Bay” as I currently live in said south bay. But since they can’t even get their filing done and appear to think the Mountain View office is in Santa Clara (two different cities that are not even next to each other), I can probably rest easy that my neighborhood won’t be teeming with scieno bots anytime soon.
I began thinking like this while I was still in scientology, the thought of them successfully taking over the world was very scary, luckily 99.99999% of the rest of the world agree and so I think we are safe.
I find it hard to fathom how a branch office can accumulate so much paperwork that it would take one man busy for eight hours per day for an entire three years to file it.
Hilarious that they have to give the OTs the address to the org. Telling.
“Merry CF-mas” to all Silicon Valley OTs!
ML, Vicki Shantz, Chief Cook and Bottle Washer, CLO WUS
The Fatman needs to return from Target II to develop the “End of Endless CF Rundown.”
What a spiritually fulfilling “religion”.
How uplifting to the soul it must be filing paperwork for bazillion hours so some angry and hostile twerp can file an upstat report.
Yeesh, as if there weren’t a million other reasons to leave scientology, this incessant call for filing should be enough to send any rational human out the door of scientology for good.
Gertrude, for your own sanity, get out of scientology.
“I am coming in on these days of the week:” My thoughts went South as soon as I read that line. Ah, what the hell, might as well go all the way:
Mon – Sun; Yes.
I will put in 42 minutes for the week. And I’ll even bring in my own tissues.
Don’t higher level Out of Touchs have super, nay, sooper dooper sooper pouwers? A couple of them could get the filing done in minutes using their massive minds and psycho, oops, psychic abilities without leaving their lounge chairs.
Not really a comment on this post. I am subscribed to this but haven’t received it in my online mail since Saturday, December 9. I’ve been going directly to your site. Just wondering if there’s a problem. I’m a “never-in” and really enjoy reading these.
Thanks!
No problem I am aware of and nobody else has reported any difficulties…
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
The same thing has been happening to me: no notification of the new blog post today – and the same for new comment notifications on the latest Terra Cognita thread, even though WordPress shows I’m subscribed to them. I’ve had to view new comments in the “Recent Comments” section. I’m assuming it’s just a temporary glitch.
Hmmm…my comment above still says “Your comment is awaiting moderation” but I see it in the “recent comments” section. Apparently another glitch.
Also, I got no email notifications on comments for this thread either, even though I requested them and it’s listed on my WordPress subscriptions page. JFYI, Mike.
And Marildi’s at 5:27 is showing to me yet it’s containing the front line ‘Your comment is awaiting moderation’. I usually only see this on my own comments. I don’t know about notifications since I only look at email if I need to reset a PW.
I do like the 4 minutes to edit my typos – thx 🙂
Should now be fixed.
Okay, thanks. I’ll test out another request for comment notifications…
Same here, Christine/Mike. I had to come here to read today’s and yesterday’s.
I’m sure it will get sorted out. Glad I’m not the only one!
My notifications seem to be off, too.
Ditto for me as well. Did not receive blog notification for Tues. 12/11
” I need you get into the org, bring your friends and family and get the org CF Ideal. ”
Dear Gertrude,
The hammer has come down and unfortunately you are under it. A ‘no reply’ will land you squarely in the cross hairs of your local ethics officer. Any response other than a full blown dedication measured in hours per day will result in a whisper campaign of disaffected followed by sec checks and requests for verification of participation.
Take the high road.
Yo Dave, Take yer church and stick it good buddy! And take me off yer mailing list you loser.
Or you send the letter back and say ” File it your fucking self …………. bitch!”
🙂 Possibly your mail should be routed straight to COB’s personal “round file” if you catch my drift.
Which would give new meaning to the term “sent up lines”.
To: Newcomer and aquamarine.
From: David Miscavige COB RTC
Re: the above comments
Stick the snide comments and get your asses into that CF immediately! If you two don’t have CF in present time by tomorrow, I will personally throw both of you into a volcano and drop hydrogen bombs on you!
Oops! I wasn’t supposed to mention that.
ML
Dave.
Understood, Alco. In that Newcomer has a Significant Other and so do I please advise COB that we shall be requiring separate volcanoes. Thank you and good night.
I delivered your request and he got mad and threw a bottle of scotch at me.
CF is in “Treason quality” like the rest of Scientology.
I have sent repeated requests to various organizations over decades for them to take me off all mailing lists, to dead file my CF file, etc. They never seem to get it that I don’t want to hear from them ever again. I even sent letters on attorney letterhead threatening legal action. I’ve asked for refunds of money. Nothing works.
” never writing to it; sending out bad promo to it; or just not having a CF, all contribute to a messed up field.”
I can think of a few other things that could be added to this list!
We could start with Yo Dave!
I would TOTALLY volunteer for a few hours, just to see what the files contain.
I’m just amazed that Vicky Shantz is still there. She was miserable twenty plus years ago. Why on earth does she stay?
She apparently has nothing else in her life. Note she is coming in on the following days, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
I think that about covers it.
She loves being miserable.
In the old days (75-95) we gave away training awards to keep up with filing. No training push any more, no course rooms, I’ve heard not even the green and red volumes…
When I was assigned Staff Ethics Officer in 84 there were 4 stacks of filing that reached the window sill so about 12 feet. When I was assigned Treasury Secretary mid 85 there were about 1000 unanswered letters from public wanting their account files fixed. Nothing was computerized so prior to sorting out the files the invoices (payment and purchases) had to be filed and those were 1000s of man hours behind. And to top it off the files they go in were often unfiled or scattered around 8 registration offices!
It deffinitly took a Supreme Being to survive that and actually get anything accomplished. It’s no wonder I thought so much of myself LOL 🙂
Geezers… no training, no course rooms, no SHSBC and not even green & red volumes? At least in our day the delusion had some substance to it. Now… I don’t know what to say to describe it, except maybe, there really is a static, a nothingness that computes in freebies.
More like “Circle of Zeros” – they just make it so easy.
200 hours a day X 77 or so days (1 Dec to 15 Feb) = 15,400 hours. This would be 385 weeks at a 40 hour work week. That’s 7.4 years. They’ve had no one filing for 7+ years?
Figuring it another way, I would guess that after a few hours of presorting, it would only take the rest of a day to file 1,000 particals. 6 hours remaining for 1000 is only 166 per hour or 2.7 per minute which is slow but add time to label new files and have a smoke break.
5 day work week would be 5,000 particals. And they have a files I/C? Probably double/triple/quaddrupel posted? And this doesn’t include Ethics, personel and PC filing.
Seems like a lot of busy work for such a small org.
Personally I wouldnt be suprised if the old man just wanted everything filed because once long ago there was something he needed badly (it was going to make money or keep him out of jail) and it couldn’t be found.
I personally know of 2 incriminating pieces of evidence which dissapeared from church files. I would not doubt if snatched up by OSA soon as they caught wind of them.
I know one thing for sure Vicky, its NOT the why for your ‘ARC broken’ and diminishing field.
It’s all the SPs out here who are savvy to the SPs in there.
I’m not perfect but the errors and generally pisspoor writing in the things they put out trouble me. Do they really expect someone to fill out the boxes and return it? The last time I got a note using check boxes I was in 1st grade and Joey asked me to meet him behind the black board (got my 1st kiss that day)! Obviously the files are worthless and this is just busy work, if they were important they would have been keeping them up to date all along.
I’m always astounded at the amount of work – and backlog – behind these pleas, when you run the numbers.
“200 man hours a day”?! That’s 25 people working 8 hours a day.
And “that will just make the target date of Feb.” (no specific date given) – meaning that it will need to go on for at least 7 weeks. Depending on whether that’s figured at 5 days a week or 7, it’s a staggering 7,000 to 10,000 hours of labor, or around 4 to 5 years’ work for a single person (at 40 hours a week). One of the things this reveals, is that filing is basically a full-time job at an org, that they don’t have staffed – did Hubbard fail to account for that in all his numerous micro-managing directives, or is it just another essential, like toilet paper, that they don’t fund?
But according to LRH, getting the filing done should fix their “messed up field,” right?
So they really believe that:
1. 12,500 or so hours will bet their CF up to date.
2. Anyone cares if it is up to date.
3. That will make everything ok.
We can do an entire years’ worth of year end scanning and shredding in a week and still keep up on the few clients who show up between Christmas and New Years’ here and I can guarangoddamtee you that we have more people in our door and more paper going across our desks than any org on the planet does in a year. We also do our filing on a daily basis so it does not get backlogged.
Here’s a hint: Take all the cigarette and sitting at your desk time waiting for someone, anyone, to show up and throw that into organizing CF and your CF won’t be backlogged and you will have felt useful for the time you spent there.
Here’s another hint: It won’t make a single bit of difference in the long run unless you have the CF cognition and head for the hills.
“We can do an entire years’ worth of year end scanning and shredding in a week…”
Aside from operating my own business I do admin part time for someone else in his business. Great guy, but he clings to his paper. Last week I got caught up with all the back filing (for him) I needed to do.
My major organizing project right now is debulking my own business’ files – scanning, keeping the paper I must keep, filing that, shredding the rest. ” This is such a satisfactory project that when I’m immersed in it I want to do nothing else until its done. But of course, I must periodically leave it to keep production going in present time.
I’d like to thank you because it was a post of yours a few years back – you shared how each day you handle paper via immediately scanning /filing/ shredding – which inspired me. I read what you wrote and kept thinking about it. LSS, time passed and I finally realized how NUTS it was for me NOT to be handling all the paper my business generates the same way! Just nuts for me to not be doing this!
Anyway, the point is, if non-IT trained moi can realize this and begin such a project on my own (I have to look at each document and decide so I have to do the sorting, and there is confidential information on them so I have to do the scanning and shredding) why can’t the orgs figure this out? Its not as if they can’t use computers because of LRH policy. Lots of Scientology’s CF stuff is on computers, I believe. (Someone please correct me if I’m wrong about this.)
At this point, I shudder at my OWN 25 years of archived dox which, unlike theirs, IS in order but as yet to be refiled/scanned/shreddied. What I’ve got is not 1/10 of 1% of what any given org has and still its a great deal of paper. I really don’t know how the Scn orgs tolerate their MOUNTAINS of paper, huge rooms filled with the stuff. How do they stand it?
Well, I guess they can’t stand it, and don’t stand it, which is why they need so much help confronting it.
The problem here is that CF is governed by a series of HCOPLs that LRH wrote sometime in the 1950s before the advent of the personal computer. As Scientologists see bigman’s words as holy writ, they feel they must abide by them. CF is an example of how Scientology is stuck in the past and refuses to adapt or change.
I hear you but I still don’t get it. LRH never set up a computer system but Scientology is largely computerized now, correct? At least, computerized from middle management on up, and this had to have been implemented with no Green Vol data so what’s the big deal to computerize CF in the individual orgs? And, last but not least, why am I even asking this question? 🙂
Aqua, the computerization you are referring to WAS detailed & ordered by El Ron. As it wasn’t for class V orgs it was Black on White rather than Green on White PLs.
Non Sea Org church members cannot see most of the policies El Ron wrote
Thanks, Wynsk. I had no idea that LRH had detailed and ordered such computerization back in the day. Wow. Understood on all now, except,( I’m guessing) “Black on White” refers to any policies only for Sea Org, right?
Yes, Flag Orders were black on white. There are many different issue types. For Gold he had Cine (cinematography) ED’s(blue on white) that contained about as many issues as the OEC Vols. OOD’s, Advices,CMO specific policy (tons and tons) FSO specific ED’s and FSO’s (Flag Ship Orders). Flag Bureaux policies. The Red & Green Vols are a tiny tip of the ice berg.
‘Circle of Fools’ is more like it.
ClusterF**k
Circle of Fools. Isn’t that that new grunge band? I’ve heard a lot about them!
Isn’t that the band where the drummer got busted for testing cosmetics on goldfish?
That’s the one!
For those who’ve never been on staff, this email is very revealing and signifies a huge bypass. Either that, or it’s “Hey You!” all the way.
The Mountain View Public divisions must be so weak and are unable to rally the troops. Public must be keeping their distance.
The D/ED and ED couldn’t get it done…
Nor, the combined efforts of all the SO Network terminals…
The WUS Programs Chief couldn’t get it done…
Up and up it goes…until it lands on the desk of the CO CLO WUS!
And I’ll wager a tenner, she won’t get it done either.
THIS is Advanced Management Technology.
I love the covert threat towards the end of her email.
In homage to the new Star Wars coming out – for you, Tiny Fists:
“The more you tighten your grip, AppleBox Boy, the more participating Scientologists will slip through your fingers.”
Yea, I really got sick of the “you need to” or “your duty” comments. Gawd! So glad I got out of there.
ME TOO!
And they really think they are softening up their target with the platitudes ……….
” As an OT at the top of the Bridge your ability to create effects across the dynamics is tremendous. As such you are a vital part of making the Silicon Valley Ideal Org a reality and that is why I am coming to you personally.”
Like you are such a huge and important being that you are being specially summoned by mr./ms. holier than thou to ………….’pump some more shit out of their septic tank’!
All of the communications and flyers make me feel stressed out for the recipients. How ever did you all endure this endless pressure and constant whip-cracking? All for people that are never pleased and for never finished work. And it is all manufactured projects that mean nothing. So glad you are out from under this ridiculous burden.
“C.F.” is the poster child for all of Hubtard’s “technology”/
C.F. Can’t Find (a damn thing)
🙂
Wouldn’t be that big of job if all were dead filed how need to be. Couple manila folders should be easy enough to keep in order.
That’s right! 🙂 Just correctly Dead File everyone in that huge mountain of paper except for 6 people! So much for getting the CF Project into PT. Done, Sir!
With those SciFi computing machines, if you want to reformat a report you ask a data manager to revise the query, or do it yourself. In 200 man-hours you could have enough variations to make even COB happy.
But then what would Vicky do with her time?
Hey Vicki, I have a couple questions: 1) WTF are you still doing on post? All the orgs under your command have crashed stats for two decades. In the real world, your ass would be grass a long time ago. 2) How do you justify to yourself that you’ve lost thousands of public in the past few years? Could it possibly have anything to do with your leader, the Mighty Midget?
Kinda sad,Vicki. I know you’re a bright gal, but we’re wondering why you’re still there.
To answer your first question, Lordburg, “They can’t find anyone better, so they’re stuck with Vicki.” 🙂
Ah yes, Peter. And who’d be fool enough to put their head on the chopping block for a post like hers?
The Midget is anything but Mighty. Criminal is more apt.
” Could it possibly have anything to do with your leader, the Mighty Midget?”
Or perhaps your own sour attitude and generally piss poor behavior? I’ll bet she is pretty good friends with Idiotproof. Oops, dang, now she will likely rise from the muck!
First good laugh of the day!
You could donate a million dollars to the IAS today and get a Commendation and tomorrow find yourself in a Committee of Evidence where that Commendation means nothing. Commendations aren’t worth a sheet of toilet paper much less the paper they are written on.
So true, Mary Kahn!
Yep! That’s Scientology.
Oh, I don’t know. I think a Scio commendation is easily worth a sheet of used toilet paper.
?
Hey! Can I get that deal?
Thanks for the idea! I happen to have a stack of those things!
To bad there isnt an invention that could do all those files easier. Like one of those crazy science fiction computers on tv. I guess till then We are stuck with paper and cool CD lectures. Or is it cassette tape?
Ah, Central Files. Like I told those poor schlubs in Perth, just call it done, report it so on next Thursday’s stats, bring in pizza and beer, and relax. No one will ever come to inspect the files to see if it was done. Even if they did, how would they know the difference? And, you know what — No one at HQ gives a damn either. All they want is to be able to pass a success statistic up the chain of command to the top of the shit-heap, and call it a day.
200 man hours a day? Not in a million years. Be sensible. Fly a straight line to success. Report CF done without having to crack open a single file box or folder. You’re not letting anyone down. No fewer Clears will be made. No less revenue will be generated.
Oh, my, you’re a genius! I think there’s an executive level job waiting for you at some CLO.
…hehehe…
Bite your tongue!
Sounds about right, hgc. I’d like to know how Gertrude responded; did she “handle” this, or did she get handled? Those poor slobs, pushing all that paper around; what a way to spend your time and your life. Then again, if that’s hwo they want to spend their time, let them have at it. I did grunt work like this as a temp years ago – but I got paid for it and went home after 8 hours.
Bix,
I’ve been thinking and I want to apologize for you.
I’m referring to my response to your objection to jokes being made on the Danny Masterson thread a short time ago.
When I defended the people making the jokes in a way that I knew was simply thoughtless and not in the least malicious, I was not considering the viewpoint of someone who might have suffered as a consequence of that which was being joked about.
I didn’t take into consideration the possibility of a perfectly valid and understandable viewpoint that would find this sort of joking so offensive as to cause an immediate negative and pejorative reaction.
I wasn’t considering the existence of such viewpoints at the time and my speech reflected this lack. Later I saw that I could have said the same things a lot better.
I am sorry, Bix, for losing my temper, and coming on so strong like that.
I’m glad you’re still posting here.
Aqua.
I seen military reports given like that sometimes. Just tell HQ what they will believe and have no reason to question, especially if it makes them look good. None of ’em will ever go out in the field to verify. Stupid orders are stupid orders whichever way you look at them and Scientology is full of stupid orders.
Dear Vicky: Go F*ck youself. ML – Me the SP! 😛
Oh goodie, straight to the point. I love it when you speak like that.
It gives me goosebumps…