This is something one of our readers sent in last week that highlights another facet of the fraud of scientology.
You may have heard of the recent situation with the Oroville dam in Northern California and people being evacuated. This story in the LA Times tells of the Sikh temples in Sacramento that opened their doors to displaced persons. There was also a link to other shelters and churches who had taken in refugees. NOT included on the list was the “ideal” Church of Scientology of Sacramento.
Here is an excerpt from the story:
As tens of thousands fled low-lying regions on the Feather River this week amid warnings of flooding from the rapidly filling Lake Oroville, Sikh temples across in the Sacramento area opened their doors to evacuees.
Sikhs in Sacramento, home to 10 temples and about 11,000 Sikh families, began putting out calls for supplies and volunteers on Sunday evening after 180,000 people living in communities downstream of Lake Oroville were given short notice for mandatory evacuations.
Now, here is what David Miscavige had to say about this “ideal org” when he yanked its ribbon back in January 2012 (and it’s STILL not “SH Size”).
This is taken directly from the scientology.org website (bolding mine):
In signifying the importance of this new Church, Mr. Miscavige said: “The dedication of this new Church signifies a solemn pledge. It’s a pledge to employ the full measure of what lies within those walls on behalf of this City. It’s a pledge to make a world of which we can be proud. A world without insanity, criminality, illiteracy and immorality; a world where the able can prosper, where honest beings have rights and where all are free to rise to greater heights. That’s our responsibility as Scientologists. And, yes, a responsibility we willingly embrace.”
They also include some statements from elected officials they managed to persuade to speak. Wonder how these people feel about scientology’s contribution to society and their city now?
Mayor Kevin Johnson welcomed and acknowledged the Church for demonstrating its commitment to the city: “Sacramento is the most diverse city in the country, and your church and what you guys are doing is diverse. This building here is not just a building for you—it’s a building for the community.”
Interfaith Council of Greater Sacramento President Jon Fish recognized the Church’s effective contribution to the community, including its humanitarian program utilizing L. Ron Hubbard’s book, The Way to Happiness: “ We know this will always be a home of friendship toward us and others. There shall always be an open invitation and an outstretched hand.”
Highlighting the Church’s work in human rights education, Greater Sacramento Urban League president David Deluz said: “…Because this is a Church, not just open to everyone but you freely give to anyone the many tools you have. That’s why this Church is as much a gift to Sacramento as to your parishioners.”
The hype and the promises last about as long as the video cameras are rolling. These people actually believed the Sacramento org is there to support the community because this is what they were told. The truth is that they are ONLY there to engage with people who will give them money. Period.
Wonder when any of these people who used their reputations to give scientology credibility are going to use their reputations to call them out on their lies?
Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn) says
As I have said before (maybe not here), some government official (IRS or other), should dress up as a homeless person, and try to get some help (just a drink of water and a person to talk to) from any scientology “church”. Then they should go to any other religious place of worship and do the same – see who is more willing to give some help to a fellow being.
This will show that scientology has absolutely no interest in giving any help to those who need it (and will probably call the police instead). Thus proving that scientology does not deserve tax-exempt status.
PeaceMaker says
Johnny, that’s not how the guidelines for tax exemption work, partly because the government (and the IRS) are supposed to stay out of making specific judgments about religious practices. There are some broad requirements such as “public benefit” that Scientology is probably increasingly vulnerable on, but that’s a matter of making a case based on multiple points of evidence and broad patterns, rather than just one measure that might seem traditionally expected of a religion or charity. It’s important to accurately understand what would need to be done, in order to know what to do.
Angela E says
In December I went to see Trans Syberian Orchestra at The Golden 1 Center/Arena in Sacramento. It’s in the same block, just around the corner, as the Sacramento Scientology Building on J Street. It was a sold out show, with thousands of people milling about. I parked across the street from the Scientology building. When I walked by, there was not a single church member in sight. The building look closed, and it was only 2:00pm. Why wouldn’t they be taking advantage of all those opportunities to recruit? Or at least be open and available to provide ‘charitable services’ like legitimate non-profit churches.
Angela E says
I forgot to mention that it was a Wednesday, not a weekend. Shouldn’t they have been open?
Aquamarine says
The Cult of Scientology would never allow a horde of unwashed, hungry and fatigued, needy and desperate downstats to enturbulate the fake high tone levels of their ever so “upstat” staff in their empty Ideal Morgue. Whattya think, they’re a church or something?
Billydrums says
Whats the big difference? Most scientologists that I know personally shower twice a week whether they need it or not. Funny but true
WhatAreYourCrimes says
It’s nice of those Sikhs to open their doors to victims of such a calamity, but I really hope Tom Cruise drove or flew by. If he saw the Oroville dam accident, then the whole world can be set at ease. Because he knows, HE KNOWS, he is the only one who can HELP after viewing such an accident, and it is his PRIVILEGE to be a Scientologist in such matters. He has a golden medal of new age valor medallion trinket!! Thank LRH he is nearby.
OTVIIIisGrrr8! says
We in Scientology do not want soggy wogs tracking in mud all over the nice carpeting and marble floors in our Sacramento Ideal Org . Furthermore, as there is no toilet paper in the Sacto Org things could get *ahem* untidy.
P. W. Dilettante says
Think of the Div 6 stats they are missing out on! BIS (Bodies In the Shop) would be through roof, highest ever!
M Crow says
David Miscavige states: “It’s a pledge to make a world of which we can be proud. A world without insanity, criminality, illiteracy and immorality; a world where the able can prosper, where honest beings have rights and where all are free to rise to greater heights. That’s our responsibility as Scientologists.
He’s the insane one, a criminal, sickeningly immoral, steals all the money from his so-called parishners, and treats honest beings with total disdain! Sounds like Mr. Miscavige is the savage satan from hell! People need to wake up with this man!
zemooo says
I have seen many hate crimes against Sikhs and their temples since 9/11. Some yahoo kids burned down a Sikh temple in upstate NY a few years ago. The community got together and help the Sikhs build a nicer building in the area. That is an ‘interfaith’ group that worked.
$cientology can’t let any wogs in the door. They might see the secret scripture of Lron somewhere. It’s not Lron’s problem if the people of Northern Cali can’t postulate correctly.
exccla says
so sad for everyone. i hope the public finds this out. i hope the cherchies do too. can anyone in the sac area call the paper or tv news about this ? please ? there may be another evacution there again-maybe soon. as i like to say, the cherch is full of assholes with no compassion or thoughts about the real people who could use their help and can’t afford it.
cs says
It’s amazing how shortsighted the church is. They’ve got the money, the buildings, and a staff used to working hard. They could have taken people in. The church would have received a high level of praise, and they could have pointed to a genuinely good deed as a counter to the well-deserved barrage of criticism. A few out of the ones helped would probably return for a course, as would others who heard of CoS’s compassion. Members on the verge of leaving would probably stay in a little longer once they saw the church providing real assistance. Politicians and civil authorities would praise the church publicly without being prodded. Even staff would probably get a significant morale boost by actually doing something for once.
For the outlay of probably well under 100,000 dollars, and some staff time not spent massaging stats, they could have had a PR win worth millions. Oh well.
John P. Capitalist says
The local org could not possibly lay hands on $100,000. Remember, if they’re doing as well as any of the other smaller orgs in the US, they’re probably lucky to take in $5,000 in a good week. 85% or more of that money is immediately sucked “up lines” to HQ where it is never seen again.
The brand of Scientology is sufficiently damaged that opening up the org to house refugees these days would be seen as the equivalent of Michael Jackson opening up his house to take in young boys displaced by an earthquake. The outcry, even among people who need help, would be huge. Scientology is about as toxic as an armload of Ebola-coated kiddie porn.
Liz Breckow says
Yeah, maybe…. but I’m speculating that the idea of myriad ‘wogs’ in a pretty uncontrolled environment with their cell phones and iPads, many who might ask questions or share information regarding ‘Going Clear’ or Leah Remini/Aftermath with SeaOrg personnel, would be scary to TPTB.
But really, I’m feeling like Scientology didn’t think of offering hospitality because the concept never crossed their mind(s). Honestly, I’m hoping that DM and the governing bodies don’t ever get a clue as to how they need to play off the bad publicity.
petlover1948 says
i agree…they only what return, never to “flow” help to others! The belief of this cult is to take, take, and never to give. I lived with a Scientologist for 27 years, and he and his OT8 mother could never seem to take pleasure in being generous. She always “re gifted” presents to her non-favorite grandchildren.
John P. Capitalist says
Since I’m a never-in, I sometimes don’t understand the thought process of Scientologists — which principles they might apply to tell them what to do in a particular situation. So would the following two ideas apply in this situation, making the lack of compassion and concern a function of Scientology’s “theology”? Or it just that the “church” is all about the money and it doesn’t really matter what the “theology” says?
1. People who are affected by the Oroville dam failure are “pulling it in” because they chose to live in the path of the potential flooding, and since they pulled it in, we aren’t obligated to help them.
2. Charity is “out exchange” because you don’t get anything back for the money that you spend. People will learn to be dependent on handouts instead of learning to be cause over MEST. Or something.
pinklegs says
JP. I’ve been involved forever and I was trying to think of an analogy that explains the thinking.
Imagine a credit collections dept of a national retail chain with 200 staff working 24/7 on only collections of arrears. They earn retainers and the balance on commmisiom on their collections. The management, the ethos, the obsession is collecections. Nothing else is tolerated.
I waltz in and suggest they open the floor to the guys downstream from the dam. As a goodwill gesture.
200 blank stares greet me.
This is what I think the ‘thought processes’ are.
?
Mick Roberts says
I’m a never-in too, so I can’t say answer that, but it sure as hell wouldn’t surprise me with this group. Perhaps another reason might be that they possibly have information that there are a few SP’s living in this evacuated area and they don’t want it to get out that they are willing to help some, but not others.
Ultimately, I’m not sure it has anything to do with that or money or anything else. I just don’t think that DM even really thought about it, and when he heard about, he probably just didn’t give a shit to help such a relatively small number of displaced individuals (who are likely going to need to keep all of the disposable money they can at this time as they go through this). Just shows a huge lack of compassion.
I Yawnalot says
Too much thinking there John. You seek logic for where there is none you’ll never really grasp that if you haven’t suffered under the spell. The thinking process of a Scientologist is in a continual state of flux. It flows inward and inward only toward Scientology. How it does that may vary to each individual within the organisation but it involves a special type of introversion unique to Scientologists. It’s laced with sincere hope and suppressed gut wrenching guilt, especially about money… kid’s education funds, massive debt and nothing to show for it, future uncertain except for the OT carrot. Lack of financial abilities explained away with instantaneous ease as long as they narrow their thinking and not look too closely at anything except Scientology. It develops into the most debilitating of mindsets and eats away at conscience until you get that fixed dedicated stare and the stupidity you see in their actions.
Humanity has become a burden to them, & so the human responses of others they see they suppress until it’s totally on auto, there is no-one “home” in Scientology. They see the shrine of Miscavige and Hubbard’s wisdom, hear the wonder of his words and dream of such grandeur, but it’s all they have, dreams.
Apart from that, they’re simply fucking stupid people!
Bruce Ploetz says
John P, actually they are supposed to have a yellow van and a tent to set up for these events. I looked all around the Sacramento Org on Google street view and don’t see any yellow van. Even if they don’t open the org, it would be perfectly within their normal activities to set up the tent somewhere. It is a mystery that they haven’t done anything at all seemingly. Maybe they are waiting for the video crew to show up from Gold.
Many orgs have the yellow van though it is often a derelict with flat tires. There was even one out near the Valley org and one spotted in New Zealand.
It is probably not a matter of greed or spite that keeps them from helping when it would improve their image. More like a lack of imagination. It is not on the approved organizational program for this month and nobody can claim a statistic for it, so it is invisible to those in the bubble.
TooDangerous2 says
John P.
1. They pulled it in. It’s not because they live in the path of the dam, but because the are PTS and out ethics. You must have out ethics to be PTS, so they pulled it in.
2. Charity is out exchange, so it is actually harmful to give charity. It’s out exchange because the person hasn’t earned it. Charity makes the recipient ‘out exchange ‘ which is worse than being in need of charity.
jgg2012 says
“NOT included on the list was the “ideal” Church of Scientology of Sacramento.” Maybe the evacuees lacked the 100s of 1000s of dollars for auditing that celebrities and dentists and realtors have. Scientology is a business, not a relief organization.
I Yawnalot says
The other major ingredient missing from a Scientologist’s persona and the Church’s activities is pride. Pride comes from doing the right thing, being proud of your accomplishments and being there to assist when needed, and above all, being trustworthy and reliable. A proud person or group rarely, if ever has to speak highly of themselves, but that’s all the leader of the Cof$ ever does.
Pride in community is not something a Scientologist can boast about for any action they say they do to help others is always an opportunity for the Cof$ to beg for more money from its members, that’s all they ever do! I’ve never noticed them calling for donations from the general public in co-operation or co-ordination with local authorities or other churches for anything. It’s always for their own coffers. Every member of Cof$ unfortunately believes that the handing over of money to David Miscavige is the only solution that works for everything. What an incredible scam the Cof$ is running?
This example when a genuine call for assistance comes from displaced members of the community, where is the Church of Scientology? – ‘crickets’… they truly don’t give a hoot for anyone or anything except their own misguided sense of fear of losing their own eternity.
DebInNorCal says
Whoever is in charge of that org is probably in the RPF by now (if anyone was really even there anyway) for not taking the opportunity to drag people in need thru those doors under false pretense of helping then pounce on them to get them to take courses or “donate”. I didn’t realize there was an org up here in NorCal to begin with, let me tell you though this is the one “church” I have not heard anything about in regards to helping in ANY of the surrounding communities in need of assistance.
I can’t wait to see what lies they tell the remaining members about how much “help” they provided in Oroville cuz you know they will! LOL
DodoTheLaser says
While scientology makes slick PR videos about helping, these guys are actually helping people. And humbly so.
kkh369 says
Scientology is helping NO ONE, except for Miscavige’s bank account. Don’t be fooled.
Mark Granger says
Oh man. As a resident of the Sacramento area, I can tell you I shudder at the thought of being displaced from my home and forced to stay at the Scientology Ideal Org for days. Talk about adding insult to injury. Let’s be careful what we wish for.
McCarran says
I guess that’ the other point; the church never does anything with purely altruistic intentions. There is always a hidden agenda or motive, like to lure one IN or to get money.
Old Surfer Dude says
It is ALWAYS about money when it comes to the cult. Nothing else comes remotely close…
I Yawnalot says
OMG! Didn’t that thought take the crackle out of my breakfast cereal!
Harpoona Frittata says
From your excerpt of DM’s dedication speech at the opening of the new Sacramento Ideal org: “It’s a pledge to employ the full measure of what lies within those walls on behalf of this City.”
Since the “full measure of what lies within these walls” amounts to about seven part-time org staff struggling to keep the lights on and the bathrooms stocked with TP, it’s more of a “fool measure” than anything else 😉
Cold, tired, hungry and distressed flood evacuees are about as welcome in the Sac org as Xenu would be if he escaped his electronic mountain prison and sought refuge there.
Roger Y says
“Open to everyone but you FREELY give to anyone the many tools you have”.
Citation please…..
Ann B Watson says
This post is really important. It graphically shows in real time no fake news here, that dm and his baaing flock are on the way way Down. The Cult is now showing it was never ever a church. But is is the Prison and not the planet Scientology.is the jailer and the jail. I would go to any welcoming space during a crisis except Scientology. And do not get me started on VMs. Thank you Mike.?
Doug Parent says
” A world without insanity, criminality, illiteracy and immorality; a world where the able can prosper, where honest beings have rights and where all are free to rise to greater heights.” ……. Hell Hubbard couldn’t make his own creation behave in a manner that exemplified these objectives, unless he himself was free to define what those things are. ( All criminals = ex-Scientologists or critical of Scientology for example) I’m calling bullshit.
Aloha17 says
As a long time citizen of Sacramento, I can say we are super proud to have such a wonderful Sikh community. We can all learn from their compassion and empathy towards their fellow humans in trouble. Now on a side note, Mayor Kevin Johnson is no longer part of Sacramento. His lost his bid to be mayor again because of sexual misconduct allegations. In my opinion that kind of puts him the same line as Scientology.
kkh369 says
I grew up in Sac and most of my family is still there. Kevin Johnson is the most ineffectual mayor the city has ever seen.
Marie guerin says
It was never set up to be a charitable institution , it is paralyzed by the stat set up , frozen in ” Thursday 2:00 pm”. No misery can shake it , short of their own.
marildi says
Exactly right, Marie. I think that is the basic why for how things deteriorated.
I Yawnalot says
Thursdaytwoitus – a particularly nasty virus. The only known cure is to wake up and see the elephant brewing coffee on the dinning room table while doing hand stands.
hgc10 says
You’re excessively judgmental. The Owner, in his dedication of the ideal tomb, said there are making “a world without insanity, criminality, illiteracy and immorality.” Rising water is not in their portfolio. Let the beardo wierdos from India see to the rising water.
CGarrison says
You are a hypocrite HGC. Re-read what you wrote, particularly the part which calls Sikhs bearded weirdos. That is called being excessively judgmental. The Sikh community is walking the kindness walk, not just talking the $cientology talk.
Harpoona Frittata says
“Irony” and “sarcasm”…don’t leave home without word clearing those terms, CG!
hgc10 says
Thank you for standing up for my honor, Harpoona. I call it satire. Sensitive souls should look into it.
Harpoona Frittata says
You’re welcome. At least half of the funniest stuff you’ll ever hear is some form of satire. So, if you don’t get it, then you’re missing out on an awful lot of the fun that life has to offer!
Kemist says
Unfortunately, with all the crazy stuff that’s going on these days, the whole world has gone tone deaf, it seems.
It’s sad. I love satire, and it’s less funny when you have to explain it.
Cgarrison says
My apologies hgc10. I read your first post this morning whilst not caffeinated and did not catch the irony/sarcasm. I perceive it now and will therefore shut my yapper.
Mick Roberts says
David Miscavige: “A world without insanity, criminality, illiteracy and immorality;…”
1. Immorality – Things like using coercion or threats to cause someone to disconnect from their loved ones, further isolating them from their family and increasing their dependence on the church. Also trying to take advantage of elderly people when it comes to “helping” them with the distribution of their estate upon their passing. This list could go on indefinitely.
2. Illiteracy – Seems as most can read or write (word clearing, although seemingly pointless and a waste of time in most cases, I suppose can have some advantages), but a great deal of what they learn, particularly children raised in Scientology schools, is a different language and a completely different mindset, making them “illiterate” to the reality of the world in many other ways.
3. Criminality – Such as human trafficking, coerced imprisonment (including physical), child labor, misapplication of labor laws for those working for Scientologists, etc. Another long list.
4. Insanity – Dear Lord, the madness of this philosophy and its practices is a text-book definition of insanity……no need for further explanation.
Mr. Miscavige, if it is truly your mission in life to “clear the planet” of these four things, you could single-handedly go a long way towards achieving that “noble goal” by simply going away and taking this church, its teachings, and its irrational policies with you, which will provide current Scientologists with an immediate, cost-free, and very real “Bridge to Total Freedom”.
Robert Almblad says
DM has expanded Scientology’s tradition of lying to get donations to unbelievable heights. Big lies = big bucks is his motto and guiding light. How long can he keep this up in the internet age???
Diane Moyer says
But will they have pictures of Scientology helping at the next big event they put on for themselves? That will be interesting to see.
PeaceMaker says
I was thinking about that as well, after this blatant example of their failure to truly help in the world in any significant way. I would be shocked and saddened but not surprised to see that they had actually cynically set up a photo opportunity for a couple of their “volunteer ministers” in yellow coats to briefly appear to be helping out.
It also shows how shallowly self-serving they are that they will show up to do their “touch assists” and hand out Way To Happiness when there are more essential things to be done. There have been several reports from real disaster assistance team members, about how the Scientologists actually got in the way of people involved in crucial aid work.
Marie says
I live in sacramento and cos and dianetics bill boards are everywhere!
My friend and i are going in undercover for a tour. They have returned my call 16 times as I had to cancel our tour due to work. I have yet to rescedule.
Cindy says
Great idea to go in undercover, Marie. Let us know. And also ask them if they opened their door to the flooding refugees. Act all innocent like you don’t know and really want to know when you ask it. Let’s see how they respond to that.
PeaceMaker says
Marie, if you want to go in undercover, you may already have blown your cover by posting here. That may sound paranoid, but experience has shown that the CofS is actually paranoid enough to monitor forums like this and go to surprising lengths to act on not just obvious information, but even clues, that are posted.
If you go, I highly recommend that you start over and use completely different information than you have provided them previously, and nothing that could possibly be tied to anything that you have posted online. Or maybe you know that, and are just messing with them by posting misleading information 🙂
p.s. I also suggest being prepared for the possibility that if you go in, you may end up dealing with someone especially trained and experienced in dealing with “SPs,” who may try to ask leading questions intended to determine if you are there with a hidden agenda. If you want to get an idea of what to expect, there are even some interesting online videos you can watch of people who went undercover in orgs, including at least one case where they were uncovered and throw out. And please report back with lots of details….
Harpoona Frittata says
“If you go, I highly recommend that you start over and use completely different information than you have provided them previously…”
Yep, since the Sac Ideal org only gets about three such requests for tours each decade, it’s pretty easy to figure out who’s trying to crash their cult party when you post about it here first.
PeaceMaker says
p.s. There’s a great example of Scientology’s monitoring of the internet over at Tony Ortega’s site The Underground Bunker today. Yesterday someone posted a comment there with a link to a video of the inside of a building in Clearwater that they found on a Facebook account, and within hours an official of the CofS was at the workplace of the Facebook account holder asking them to take the video down.
Thinking about it further, if you want to check out an org I think you need to be prepared to kind of play dumb, deflecting any questions intended to probe whether you’ve heard about them on the internet or from ex-members, and letting them know that you have enough interest to want to be shown around and find out a bit more but probably not enough to do a personality test (unless you really want to be separated from your friend and each put through that recruiting routine). Asking questions that could be seen as critical risks making the staff suspicious and shutting them down unless you approach it very carefully after you have established some rapport.
sky says
I thought of that in the middle of the night! Thank you so much for all the tips. I need all the help i can get!
I Yawnalot says
See if they have any toilet paper.
secretfornow says
we used to keep ours at our desks. Sometimes you had to hide it.
Dawn says
I learnt at my very first workshop – before I had even signed up – that sympathy was a low toned emotion and very bad for the human psyche!
Dawn says
The workshop was held by Terence Shank in a Durban hotel. It was called The Anatomy of the Human Mind. It was delivered so well and made such sense at the time, I didn’t even need to be regged but offered myself up to whatever was next for me! Oh, horrors of horrors.
I’m out and that’s all that matters now. I’m the happiest I’ve ever been since that first workshop. Scn was a living nightmare for me the whole time I was in it and I didn’t think to get the hell out because it professed to offer me answers I’d been asking for a long time. Oh my goodness me. What a long and tortuous journey only to find out that I’d/we’d been duped!
Lol! It’s laughable, actually. How many other people can boast about being trapped in a cult without even knowing it.
Old Surfer Dude says
Dawn, congrats on getting your old life back! Feels pretty good, doesn’t it? The world is your oyster. May the BEST day of your past…..be the worst day of your future. And don’t forget to kick ass & take names!
Randomness says
Wow Terence Shank – a name I haven’t heard for such a long time…good ol Durban days 🙂 when the org was actually a friendly place that you wanted to go to…miss those days…
Here’s to living in the awesome real world where wogs are actually lovely people that you want to spend your time with – much nicer people than most judgemental scientologists I know!
Cheers!
Valerie says
When your heart is closed it is impossible to open your doors.
BKmole says
The stats of the org do not encompass using the staff or building to care for or house those in need. It would crash their delivery and income stats. That’s the bottom line of every org and mission. They will never be an asset to any community because of that fact. And the volunteer minister program like so many LRH programs is a big fail.
LDW says
It is against $cientology policy to help these people. It comes under the heading of “rewarding downstats.”
$cientology is here to make the able more able. Being able means able to give them money. No money=no help.
If local $cientologists took 10% of their hard earned money to set aside for eventualities such as this flood and used these funds at their own discretion to help the victims of this disaster, they would be declared suppressive for not having forwarded this money to Dave so he could take 95% off the top and give them a mere pittance back to actually provide sustenance to those in need. And of that pittance, the bulk of it would go to the Gold Crew to pay the costs of the photo op which would aggrandize their feeble efforts.
The local “church” rarely has enough money itself to pay for toilet paper.
11,000 Sikh families in Sacramento? That would add up to far more $cientologists than exist in the entire country. Makes Tom Cruise statement “we’re the only ones who can help,” seem like really, really fake news.
Mick Roberts says
Although not the “only one”, Mr. Cruise actually could help.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tom-cruise-could-end-scientology-according-to-leah-remini_us_58aabf76e4b037d17d294bb3
I wish he would finally earn that unique medal DM made especially for him and have the “Valor” to bring “Freedom” to many who feel trapped in this cult with no way to escape without severe repercussions.
McCarran says
Well said, but Tom Cruise, the groomed narcissistic BFF, will never turn but boy wouldn’t that be the bomb if he did.
Aquamarine says
I would never say “never”. I have a theory about Cruise which is that if push came to shove and he really REALLY was in a position where he had to choose between his career and his cult, he’d choose the former in a heartbeat. I could be wrong but I think that he’s been avoiding making public comments on the cult to forestall just such a scenario For several years now he’s been VERY silent as regards all things Scientology.
Cindy says
But they aren’t downstats, LDW. They are regular good, hard working people who had to be evacuated because of a natural disaster. The church should be helping and isn’t. This is a story to trumpet loud and clear on the blogs, on the Leah show, in the newspapers, on TV.
Aquamarine says
Who’s going to take in Int Base when they get flooded out, or if there’s an earthquake? Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t Int right on or close to the San Andreas fault, something like that?
kkh369 says
ACTUAL churches, most likely. And the Red Cross and disaster relief agencies. Yes, Int seems to be pretty close to the fault line. A good portion of So Cal is.
Mike Wynski says
A group has to actually care for their fellow humans to help like these Sikhs do in order to help like that.
Dawn says
When I first came into scientology, I remember thinking long and hard about all the people who desperately needed help but wouldn’t get it in scientology because they couldn’t afford it and there was strong policy against giving any service for free. I was told that scn is for the able and after the able were “fixed” there would be time for the needy – the less able. Oh my!
I bought this! I often think how the writing was on the wall for me many times and in so many different ways but I had bought the koolaid.
Mick Roberts says
Dawn, I’m a never-in, so I can’t speak to the mindset of a person entering, staying, or leaving Scientology, but from the ex-members that I’ve spoken to here and other places as I’ve started learning more about this, I feel the reason you “bought the koolaid” (as you said) was because you, like most people who get into Scientology, truly had the best intentions at heart to help other people. You were just fed a bunch of lies that appealed to your good intentions.
The fact that you “bought it” actually makes you pretty normal in my opinion, because I’ve always believed that people will usually believe a lie for one of two reasons, either hope or fear. And I think that most Scientologists, both former and current, are no different when they’re told a lie. They either hope that it’s true (such as “saving mankind”), or they’re afraid it might actually be true (such as the fears of current Sea Org folks of how horrific things are in the outside world).
Aquamarine says
Beautiful comment, Midk Roberts, thank you. I, for one, believed unquestioningly for many years that Co$ was really helping. My bad. For so many years it never occurred to me that I was being lied to so outrageously – you see, the lies were so big I assumed they had to be true, for how could anyone lie like this…? Eventually it all unravelled but The Big Lie theory worked very well on me for decades, I’m embarrassed to say.
Old Surfer Dude says
‘Help,’ is a four letter word to Scientologists…
Harpoona Frittata says
So true, and so is “love”.
Old Surfer Dude says
‘Love’ is the ultimate four letter word…
I Yawnalot says
‘Cash’ rates pretty highly too!
19susan57 says
This works well as a verifiable, objective measure of the relative value of Scientology as a humanitarian force in that area. It either helps or it doesn’t–clearly if it’s helping, that help is invisible and therefore not easily accessible to people in an emergency.
My Inner Space says
They never seem to be front and centre helping out at any tragedy. They don’t hand out blankets, food, water, nothing. In Toronto where I live there were homeless people living on the corner diagonal to them, and they sure did not get any help from Scientology. Surely their buildings could hold hundreds if not thousands of homeless in California alone. But it’s all to make Miscavige and Cruise rich and supported and build more buildings to justify their tax-exempt status.
Dawn says
Blankets and food would cost them GI – unthinkable!
Aquamarine says
And besides, there’s no place in the org budget for Purell.
Tina Lovell says
Hit nail on head.
Old Surfer Dude says
They take pictures of themselves to “prove” they are making a difference. They’re not…
Simi Valley says
I can think of three people – clams or ex-clams in the L.A. area – who were made homeless as a result of their connection to the cult. The cult never gave a rat’s ass about any of them.
Cindy says
I also know people made homeless from giving all their money to the church.
Old Surfer Dude says
If they do give a rat’s ass, they’re sent to Hole (which continues to not exist)
Aquamarine says
All the people that could be shelter in those big, empty buildings, all that money that could provide warmth, food, clean water, medicine, clean beds so that traumatized people could actually rest and sleep…I can’t think about this too much or I’ll get too angry.
kkh369 says
I know, it really does piss you off, doesn’t it? Just empty buildings standing there, I don’t think it would even OCCUR to DM to help these people. What a farce this whole thing is.
statpush says
Scn is missing one important ingredient – Compassion.
Mike Rinder says
This is the sentence of the day. Sums it all up perfectly.
kkh369 says
Well, in most money-making corporations, there isn’t a lot of room for compassion, Mike. That would be counter-productive, now wouldn’t it?
Old Surfer Dude says
Oh, c’mon now! You can’t expect people saving the planet to be compassionate! I mean, it’s hard work taking responsibility for every man, woman & child on Earth! Being compassionate would lead to all kinds of shit. Being militant and compassionate just doesn’t jive….
Cindy says
We should send the IRS this blog and report. It might make them no longer tax exempt as a church. Churches do good works. Not so Scn.
Old Surfer Dude says
+1! Yep! Alert the Feds!
threefeetback says
Dave should be schlonged and hung out to dry.
Junk Phrases says
“Scientology’s for the able” smacks of Aryan racial theory or any other totalitarian “us versus them” mentality. There IS no compassion for “wogs” because they are inconsequential, non-entities, etc. What makes no sense, is that you’d think Elron would have seen the “less able” as an opportunity to transform their lives and demonstrate that his methods worked. LOL…..he couldn’t because in all reality he needed able people that he could hypnotize and control their minds AND Scn DOES NOT WORK.
Old Surfer Dude says
Scientology has never worked! But, when you hand over your child’s college fund, you want it to be real with every fiber of your being.